The whats happening in Egypt breaking right now thread

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  1. allegoricalfact

    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

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    Oh, so it works does it? That sounds more like it. The Press don't do their homework do they because were ever I have seen it mentioned it is said to have been Morsi who changed the Generals. Thank you for that.

    Obama? I honestly don't know who or what he is, has anyone ever broken so many hearts in the World, dashed so many hopes as he? And the CIA trained the Taliban, they were US babies but as with Saddam they rebelled about the pipe lines and opium and other Corperate interests in Afghanistan .........well you know better than I, I expect, of the Saudi/US schools for boys.
     
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    Al Jazeera opens in America

    Al Jazeera Misr to close in Egypt

    :roflol:
     
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    Morsi has no say in choosing generals for Egypt's Navy Air Force or Army (SCAF)

    He just puts the stars on their shoulder when they are chosen :wink:

    Obama is a raving lunatic and the bigger problem there is, there is not a single hope for anything better next election so our planet really is in a very dangerous situation

    Iran needs to wipe America off the map LOL :machinegun:
     
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    :peace: :cool:
     
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    allegoricalfact Well-Known Member

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    I think the Americans and the British are running scarred. The Big Oil Monsters are beginning to look else where for Gas and Oil. I live on the South Downs, they want to start fracking the Downs for gas .............Now why do they want to do that I wonder, if they are not worried they shall loose their supply or that the supply shall become more expensive? If only they would stop being so bloody greedy and deal in fair trade/fair play. Greece I am sure has been broken so that the Oil off her shores can be farmed and she knocked out of the equasion just like Haiti unable to afford to dig for their own treasures. They the Empire is acting desperately and has since Bush for it is dying which is always dangerous.


    Iran isn't War like though is it? Who in the ME is War like? I think we all have to look to our own, you chuck out the fundi nut cases and we chuck out the Corperate who want to turn out little bit of beauty into ugly mine fileds just so that they can sell it back to us at twice the price instead of investing in Solar power so that we could all be free of the Monsters.

    Obama ? I dunno .................... weird, a puppet.
     
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    Shame I used to like Al Jazeera ..................... can't trust any one can you?
     
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    Iran have not attacked any nation for over 300 years unlike Western terrorism

    In my region it is we who have for centuries fought invaders coming from West to steal and control our people and lands

    Our biggest problem was traitors helping them but hopefully that will change

    we shall see
     
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    I know :( I hope so too and yes we shall see ...............
     
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    AJ do great documentaries BUT the last 2 years they have lost a lot of credibility :frown:

    Many journalists left them 2 years ago like Mohyeldin
     
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    Today has a calm feeling

    First time in two years

    :thumbsup:
     
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    They were left alone by their Gov given lee way until their Gov got invloved in the Libyan wickedness. That was their end. I saw the same happen here to the BBC, blackmail and so on .................. :( We have to get good at reading between the lines eh Abu?
     
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    You had to give Morsi the chance but I should imagine with a holding in of breath. Glad you can relax and it is the weekend, do something lovely :)
     
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    nothing planned till 6pm except maybe I will check my seedlings because today is first day in a while we have temperature less than 35 c :thumbsup:

    Egypt has clear skies and heat and sun 9 months of year then 3 months of nearly clear skies less heat and still sun

    I wish it was November :clapping:
     
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    It is raining here ...............as usual :) I must go too and get on, I am supposed to be going to a Party later but have no doggy sitter for my poor darling old hound who can hardly walk. I can't leave her alone but might find a sitter still ............... no matter I must make myself beautiful just in case I am able to go.

    A once a year party given by a village family which is fun :)
     
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    hoping you enjoyed your party and your dog was looked after :thumbsup:
     
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    by leadership of Tamarrod ( who started the 23 million petition to oust Morsi and led to 30th June ouster


    "the current Egyptians suffering should have been expected and originated from the corruption that existed under former President Hosni Mubarak, the lack of political openness, the state of submission planted in the hearts of people, and the constant repression which gave an opportunity for terrorist groups to emerge"

    "Muslim Brotherhood was defending its American agenda, as indeed "Mubarak bowed to the United States, and the military council of Tantawi and Sami Anan bowed to the Muslim Brotherhood. Americans and the Muslim Brotherhood are a backward ally that seeks colonization and it's desperate defence is for the American agenda not the Islamic oneĀ”

    " it is duty of the state to provide those who had been pushed into the path of darkness with the culture and the foundations of true religion, through Al Azhar and the Ministry of Endowments"

    "We have to re-evaluate things and build a modern Egypt. We need to follow two tracks and apply the rule of law on those who carry weapons"

    "We have to promote a new religious and moral culture for those who have been pushed into the path of darkness and develop a respectable constitution that preserves the rights of the revolution"

    I agree
    There is a big problem and Al Azhar has to become stronger to fight this Wahabi salafist jihadist ideology coming from Saudi and thank God most Muslims come to Egypt to learn about Islam at Azhar and not to Saudi.

    Our illiterates need to be de programmed.
     
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    The prophet Mohammed's pbuh (original) letter with his handprint signature to the Monks at St Catherine in Sinai

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    Operation Egypt

    We will never forgive "the Americans" for supporting this.. Yes, we'll generalize.. You say you have democracy! Where??? ... What's your reaction if these were street dogs? .. We don't believe your tears anymore if you remain silent. Where's your humanity? Don't you ever speak again about freedom, justice, humanity, or anything like that. Don't you have the "democratic method" to question your government? Or only when it affects your pockets? Yes, we are angry, and fu@k you if you are still not angry too..



    BBC Hardtalk Interview with Egyptian Presidential Spokesman

    Very good video to watch :thumbsup:


    [video=youtube;bo30kwWF0jo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo30kwWF0jo&sns=fb[/video]
     
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    LOL, the very original document from a person who could not read nor write.
     
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    Donations wanted for orphanage in Minya burned down by Ikhwan

    Maybe some here would like to help this effort


    https://www.facebook.com/events/1412313455648472/

    An orphanage in Minia was burnt down in the sad events of the past weeks. That orphanage housed 16 boys (primary to high school) another 198 kids are sponsored within their families. I spoke with Father Efraim, the manager today and we agreed to rebuild one floor to accommodate the 16 boys to move back in and begin the school year in "normality".

    Renovation:
    1 floor, detailed cost estimate will be ready by tomorrow


    Items needed:
    16 beds, matresses, bedding, sheets
    16 closets
    20 desks
    20 chairs for desk
    2 large dining tables (to seat 20)
    20 dining chairs
    2 large stoves
    3 fridges
    2 deep freezer (top opening)
    1 coldair for water
    4 gas heaters
    2 washing machines
    4 Computers
    kitchen utensils (cutlery, pots, glassware, etc)

    For the 16 boys:
    school uniforms
    school stuff


    Orphanage:
    Gam3eyet Gunud Al Messi7 Al Qebteya bel Minia
    56 Mostafa Fahmy Street
    in front of Neqabet El Zera3eyeen
    Minia, Upper Egypt

    The idea is to collect enough money to buy the above items and renovate that floor they will be living in.
    At the moment they are waiting for the "mu3aynet el neyaba" as it is a crime scene until given away after the assessment. Then we can start renovations. Meanwhile I would like to have all other items ready.

    Donation Pick up:

    If in Cairo I can send a messenger or you can drop your donation off at my office in maadi.
    --
    Maadi Drop Off:

    What Women Want...Magazine
    Building 2 C/4 Sheikh Sharawy Street, Taksim Laselky, Maadi, from 9-5pm, Tel: 25170232
    or
    Sarah's Kindergarten (Treasure Island)
    Street 1, Villa 3, Maadi, 8-3pm

    6th of October Drop off: Sara Farouk 01001523123
    Zamalek Drop off: Dina El Batal 01222188010
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    Dubai Contact: Samar El Sayed 0552424084
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    For US contributions we teamed up with:

    The Littlest Lamb. You can donate on their website: http://littlestlamb.org/donate/
    PUT "MINYA" in the "referred by"

    If you want to send a check:
    Littlest Lamb,
    PO Box 592, Rye, NY 10580.
    PUT "MINYA"in the memo.

    They will channel the money to me. It is tax reducible as well.

    Let's make this happen. Share please!


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    dictated to scribe like all the other envoy letters then signed by handprint :roll:
     
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    Well to be honest we are hated no matter what we do so most that I have spoken with prefer we just stay out.

    You just said basically if we don't help you you will, hate us.

    If we do all the Muslims of the ME will hate us.

    The frustrating part is we are blamed by people no matter what happens.
     
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    No this is the problem of not understanding anything going on around you outside your own towns and villages

    We are not asking for your help


    The world suffered enough of Americans type of help
     
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    When I read this, I take it as you saying we are supporting Morsi and the Muslims. This is not true, the vast majority of Americans I know support the army, we just don't want to get involved.

    Based on your above statement, unless we help the army directly we are "inhumane" or "greedy".

    Again, the majority one Americans are tired of picking sides. No matter what half the world is going to pissed. Unllleeeeesss, we simply stay out of others business.
     
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    If I am right

    you are looking at the face of the next President of Egypt

    Jay Leno

    [​IMG]


    ............. I mean Hamdeen Sabahi !
     
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    Then what do you want?

    We are not supporting Morsi, so what are you angry with except that we are overtly supporting you?


    So you not see the confusion? Before you think we are evil, no freedom, whatever unless we help you directly.

    The next post says "We are not asking for your help."

    I am with you guys all the way, but that right there is a prime example of how Americans are the bad guys no matter what we do.
     

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