There is something I'm not understanding about the right wing Afghanistan narrative...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Aug 19, 2021.

  1. Indlib

    Indlib Well-Known Member

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    ? They were warned...like I posted?

    So what is the problem?

    What do mean tweets have to do with anything?
     
  2. garyd

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    Show me that they were...
    Looks to me like the first warning they got was when the Taliban told them they were coming for them.
     
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    If they had a strategy, it was a bad strategy. The troops should have pulled out last after they got out all the people and anything else that should be evacuated.

    Biden pulled out the troops, gave up our air base and then sent in new troops. Now we are dependent on getting them out of an indefensible civilian airfield which is blocked by the enemy. Do you call that a strategy?
     
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  4. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Serves them right, the greedy bastards.
     
  5. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    Yes, 'warned' to not depend on the USA to get their asses out. How you people can sit here and STILL try making excuses for this is completely unreal.

    Do you realize you are making excuses for abandoning 10 THOUSAND AMERICAN CITIZENS to almost certain death in a hostile country? Do you actually realize that?

    I'll just post this bit again.....

    Who gives a flying fck how much warning they had? Does that excuse abandoning 10 thousand Americans to almost certain death?

    So much for "no man left behind".......Biden is a sorry excuse for a human. He would not make a good sack of feces.
     
  6. ChiCowboy

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    I didn't suggest anyone was "trapped." Those are your words. Again, I'm not assigning blame. Please pay attention, CT.

    I'm thinking of their reasoning, nothing more. @Melb_muser is correct, "Could be many reasons."

    What do you think held them back? A favorite pizza joint?
     
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  7. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    We have truly entered bizzaro land, twilight zone territory when supposed americans actually make excuses for this....NO MATTER WHAT YOUR POLITICS.

    It's absolutely surreal. Did I eat a lot of mushrooms recently? Please tell me our Gov abandoning 10K AMERICANS overseas, in a hostile nation is a hallucination gone wrong.

    I dont give two little turds if they were "warned" or not (nevermind the ''warning'' was a notification to NOT depend on us...) The USA I know (or knew...), does not just leave our citizens to the Taliban.
     
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    yep…. a light knock on your door with a soothing voice outside saying “ding dong Avon calling” and when an opened door reveals some big smelly hairy guy with a sword, it’s probably to late.
     
  9. independentthinker

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    Let me explain it to you. It's called politics. You know, like the politics of blaming Trump for Covid, a worldwide pandemic, did I mention worldwide? If the left can use a pandemic against Trump that no one in the world has been able to control, even to this day, then why can't the right use every good crisis to their political advantage?
     
  10. FatBack

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    Possibly the little fact they were told to find their own way to the airport in a nation in chaos and at war?

    Yeah, just hail a cab...
     
  11. Indlib

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    So if they were warned why are they still there?

    We're they expecting soldiers to personally escort them in limos to the airport?

    I feel there is some personal responsibility involved here.

    Are soldiers there now to facilitate their evacuation?

    I think so.

    Almost certain death? Does exaggeration make your outrage feel better?
     
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    Novel virus goes right over some folks heads
     
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  13. Golem

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    Not so.
    https://af.usembassy.gov/security-alert-u-s-embassy-kabul-afghanistan-august-7-2021/
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...vacuations-begin-as-first-flight-heads-to-u-s
    https://www.axios.com/us-afghanista...har-96f020c7-4ea6-4572-91e5-85f0a7a1fcec.html

    Commercial travel was not in chaos when they were urged to evacuate.
     
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    Only for three days. Then it will just magically go away.
     
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    This sounds like more victim blaming.
     
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    Well considering Trump was telling Americans that covid was no big and like the flu...while simultaneously telling Woodward how dangerous and how much worse then the flu was...yeah, he has massive culpability based on that lie alone.

    Just a guess on my part but I am guessing that lie alone cost more then 10k american lives but sure, great example.
     
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  18. Indlib

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    I think it is closer to personal responsibility.
     
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    Given your completely twisted view of reality that might explain it. Virtually nothing you have asserted about the dynamics of what is going on in Afghanistan is an accurate depiction. This absurd talking point about abandoning thousands of Americans you keep repeating suggests you are not receptive to a fact based discussion on the subject.
     
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    BS, this withdrawal disaster is all on Biden.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Has the trauma of the Orange Insurrectionist's reign caused Trumpette's to experience memory loss?

    Lancet Study Finds 40 Percent of U.S. COVID-19 Deaths Could Have Been Avoided
    https://slate.com/news-and-politics...coronavirus-deaths-avoidable-unnecessary.html
     
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    Look guy, I'm not going to wade thru your links DOING YOUR RESEARCH.....your very first one contradicts your claims.....excerpts ....

    "The U.S. Embassy urges U.S. citizens to leave Afghanistan immediately using available commercial flight options," .......
    Domestic flights and ground transportation routes outside of Kabul are severely limited and subject to cancellation or closure.



    And remember: I do my research. I don't do yours. If you have a point to make, that's your burden. Don't ask me to do your research for you. Or wade thru your data dump of links that contradict your claims...
     
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    So the Americans trapped in Afghanistan should take personal responsibility for Joe Biden's botched withdrawal?
     
  24. FatBack

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    Just keep making excuses for this shame.

    Yes, the Taliban is well known for it's hospitality to Americans, I'm sure they'll be just fine...
     
  25. FatBack

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    You took the bait.

    It's those who keep making excuses for this who have become unmoored from reality.
     

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