I'm not talking about you. I'm simply repeating Jesus words of warning. "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Regardless what people think, do, or say. The key phrase here is "I never knew you."
I understand this, but you have to be careful not to apply the verses with a broad brush. God looks on the heart and knows who is and who is not within His will. I'm not qualified to make that judgement, so I try to give people a benefit of a doubt and assume their hearts are right with God.
I will be honest with you, and I am not trying to offend you here, but I think it is pretty disgusting. I especially didn't like seeing my nieces and nephews being drawn into it as toddlers. Its not particularly harmful that I could see but it was emotionally excessive and I felt like the church leaders were taking advantage of people who are emotionally vulnerable.
Again, I'm not offended. I prefer and appreciate honesty. Your experience and opinion of what you saw is not something I haven't heard before and is one of the common things about how the manifestation of SIT has gotten a bad rap. The way you describe it is actually contrary to the way the Scriptures outline the appropriate way it should be practiced. I never SIT in public unless I'm called upon and only if accompanied with the manifestation of interpretation. 1 Corinthians 14:5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.” 1 Corinthians 12:10 . . . to another (profit) divers kinds of tongues; to another (profit) the interpretation of tongues
I don't speak in tounges to my knowledge and I am all right with that. It's important to remember that God doesn't give you everything you want, but He does give you everything you need.
I agree completely with your second sentence, but the scriptures don't support your first. I quoted the scriptures that support God's will. That is if you believe what 2 Timothy 3:16 says.
See, 1 Corinthians 14:5 is saying that prophesying is better than speaking in tongues unless someone is there to interpret what is being said.
Most importantly, I want to remind you that in the last days scoffers will come, mocking the truth and following their own desires. They will say, “What happened to the promise that Jesus is coming again? From before the times of our ancestors, everything has remained the same since the world was first created.” 2 Peter 3:3-4 Beloved friends… The LORD reigns; he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed; he has put on strength as his belt. Yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved. Your throne is established from of old; you are from everlasting. Psalm 93:1-2 “Listen to me, my people; hear me, my nation: Instruction will go out from me; my justice will become a light to the nations. My righteousness draws near speedily, my salvation is on the way, and my arm will bring justice to the nations. The islands will look to me and wait in hope for my arm. Isaiah 51:4-5 There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse, and a branch from his roots shall bear fruit. And the Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD. And his delight shall be in the fear of the LORD. He shall not judge by what his eyes see, or decide disputes by what his ears hear, but with righteousness he shall judge the poor, and decide with equity for the meek of the earth; and he shall strike the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips he shall kill the wicked. Righteousness shall be the belt of his waist, and faithfulness the belt of his loins. Isaiah 11:1-5 Dear precious CFP friends, He has promised. He is faithful. He is coming! ✝️
Congratulations! You're the first person to bring that up. Before I specifically address it I feel compelled to cover a fundamental point about 1 Corinthians in general. I hope I don't offend you by assuming this information is unknown to you. An epistle is defined as a letter and as such it is addressed to a person or persons. Chapter 1, verse 2 details to whom 1 Corinthians is addressed to. "Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord . . . ." If you've called upon the name of Jesus, then this epistle is specifically addressed to you and whatever is contained in it is applicable to you. Which brings us to your point. The trouble with your interpretation is that you might be able to dismiss SIT because prophesy is preferred over it UNLESS it's interpreted, but many of those to whom this epistle is addressed aren't prophesying either. What's the excuse for that? The common error I've seen/heard is people call it a GIFT which God hasn't given them. That's erroneous on two prongs; chapter twelve only refers to healing as a gift (which has an explanation of its own). The other eight are called MANIFESTATIONS of the gift called holy spirit. To break this down, let's say I give you a pen as a gift. Whenever you take that gift and write with it, that's called a manifestation OF the gift. Your using the gift is not the same as a gift. The second misconception is one of ignoring the pronouns found in the verse under consideration. "I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying." The pronoun "he" refers to the one speaking in tongues. That one, and not someone else, is to interpret what he/she just spoke in tongues. That interpretation is the companion MANIFESTATION to speaking in tongues. I said whenever I'm called upon to SIT within a Church setting I also will interpret (by the inspiration of God) what God inspired to SIT. Remember, both are inspired utterances given by God. So is prophesy, which I've also done within the church setting. BUT I never do it unless the person leading the service asks me to do it. All things must be done decently and in order as is spelled out later in the chapter.
A lot of people just see prophesying as teaching people about the law and the prophets. That is why speaking in tongues was once necessary, there was no biblical canon. But now ‘that which is perfect” has arrived and so Speaking In Tongues is not necessary. Anyone can spread the good news about Jesus Christ.
I'm not sure where you're coming up with this thinking. Nothing in the cited scriptures support it. What do the scriptures say "that which is perfect" is? Speaking in tongues only benefits the spirit of the person speaking. It does absolutely nothing for those who hear it. Therefore SIT is necessary because the scriptures say it's the only thing that edifies the spirit. What scriptures are you citing that says it's no longer necessary. Better yet, assuming it is a gift, why would God continue to give that gift to people? The only possible answer you can offer is the same one the mockers offered on the day of Pentecost - the speakers are drunk or fools.
I don’t think it’s a gift from God. Historical examples of glossolalia tend to show speaking in a “language” that no one understands to be associated with non-Christian practices. Only starting in the early 20th century do you see Pentecostal Christianity and later Charismatic Christianity accepting this as the Speaking In Tongues referred to in the Bible. Most historical references to the gift of speaking in tongues are referred to people who used that gift to teach about Christianity to people they otherwise could not have communicated. “That which is perfect” is a reference to the later part of that chapter in Corinthians we were quoting earlier. I have read that brain scans show it’s not even the language centers of the brain that are being excited. Personally I compare it more to sexual behaviour, a type of orgasm, rather than a religious thing. It just happens to have moved from non-Christian to Christian.
Christian Baptism is referred to here. The only two baptisms I would be concerned about would be John the Baptist Baptized for repentance, preparing the Way and Coming of Christ. Christian Baptism signifies dying to self ad being born again in the Spirit believing and accepting the sacrifice of Jesus for the remission of sins.
My greatest gripe with unbelievers....they refuse to acknowledge there is anything greater than themselves. When we earnestly seek with our hearts that "greater "Thing"....we find God. When we look to Jesus, we find a Love we have never known. He designed us that way.
I mean… yeah. If you earnestly seek with all you heart to only consider things that cause to believe in a myth and you close your mind to all else then yes, yes, you will find god. Or aliens. Whatever you decide to focus on really. Your reality is your focus. Your focus is your reality.
Doesnt matter. "God" is all powerful, so feed those babies. Amputees? Question...... Is your god in the storms, or is it in the calm and peace after the storm? Also can it stop playing hide and go seek?
