Three states move to protect children from transgender bathroom and locker room rules

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  1. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

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    I was scared to change out in my PE class in 7th grade (the first year we did). I eventually got over it.

    my middleschool (in the 80's) still had those open showers type of showers. But noone used them. My highschool also had those kind, but I never used them.

    Now, at the highschool I taught that was built in 2000.... they had individual stalls for showers. Still, not many used them and none used them after PE as far as I know.

    We had kids who refused to dress out in middleschool and their grades reflected it. I always thought, dressing out as a requirement was on it's way out. All it is going to take is a kid to say "I don't want to dress out because people are taking pictures with their cell phones and passing them around" and whether or not that's true, or just a lie to get out of dressing out.... noone will be docked points for refusing to dress out ever again.
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Man I did not even think about cell phones and the problems that could bring regardless of being LGBT or straight.

    We used the showers for HS football and track, and at times could be a harsh environment and even with stalls I imagine that some kids are still cruel.

    This solution of a LGBT bathroom and locker room is worse than the problem itself. Is this even a problem or a case of the LGBT sticking a finger in the eye?

     
  3. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Odds of getting in a car accident are about 1:500 vs a non felon being murdered with a gun at 1:500,000 IIRC.

    I'm far from a "gun grabber" but seriously, think before you type.
     
  4. Blasphemer

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    Is this weird law an example of that "small government" right wingers keep going on about?

    Trivial things like these should be up to school administration, in cooperation with parents, to decide. If some school wants to have common bathrooms then why not. I dont believe for a second any child would be traumatised or harmed by it in any way.
     
  5. Steve N

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    Can you tell us just how many kids have been attacked by transgendered people?
     
  7. Oldyoungin

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    The point went so far over your head it's in space. The percent of odds doesn't change anything silly billy.
     
  8. Crawdadr

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    To me the question is if rules appear that does allow transgender children into a different facility why have different facilities at all? If anyone that are for these laws has an answer to this I would really like to know so that I can better decide my opinion on all this.
     
  9. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Really? So you're just as prepared to get struck by lightning as you are for a slip in the shower?
     
  10. Oldyoungin

    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Is my house grounded? Yes sir, I would imagine your dwelling is as well.
     
  11. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Schools don't listen to parents because school administrators and their unions know better, so when you say parents I'm assuming you mean lawsuits.
     
  12. Flintc

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    Ah, this brings back memories. I remember the early days of militant feminism, and one of the lightning rods of feminism was McSorley's Old Ale House, the oldest Irish tavern in New York City. This bar became notorious because it was men-only, and women weren't allowed inside. When New York challenged this policy, the bar explained that they only had one rest room, and noplace to build another. New York required them to admit women anyway. Discrimination, you know.

    I spent more than a few nights at McSorleys when I lived in New York, and the pattern was interesting. Early in the evening, when a woman needed the rest room, her date (or someone) would guard the door until she came out. But within a couple of hours and a LOT of beers later, I noticed that people of both sexes frequented the rest room, which could get quite crowded. Nobody cared.

    This transgender thing sounds pretty much like a rerun - just a terrible idea until it turns out that it really doesn't matter at all.
     
  13. Steve N

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    Bars are voluntary, no one has to go to them. Schools not so much. The thing is, put a guy dressed like a girl in the girl's room and liberals applaud. If that same guy get's caught peeking in the window of the very bathroom he just left he'll be arrested and have to register as a perv.
     
  14. Flintc

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    And from this we conclude?

    Oh, I think I see what you're driving at. You are taking it for granted that there is no such thing as a trans gender person. There are only people FAKING this condition in order to do something unspeakable. It might help if you spent maybe 2 or 3 minutes familiarizing yourself with the meaning of transgender.
     
  15. Steve N

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    No matter what the meaning of transgender is, it all comes down to whether you have to sit or stand to pee and bathrooms are designed accordingly.
     
  16. Flintc

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    In other words, you really have no clue what transgender is. Which was obvious before, you didn't need to repeat it.
     
  17. Crawdadr

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    But why do we divide the bathrooms in the first place? Is it a good thing that we do? This is a question for those that think that Transgenders should be allowed into the other bathrooms and locker rooms.
     
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    It doesn't matter what transgender is or how you want to twist it, there are two genders in this world with bathrooms designed for each. >>>MOD EDIT Off Topic Removed<<<
     
  19. peoshi

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    How many "transgenders" do you think are in public schools?

    Do you know what a transgender is? They rarely have surgery, you're thinking of transsexuals.

    How many "transsexuals" do you think have had surgery before graduation from public school?
     
  20. Flintc

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    Biology tends to be messy. There are mostly round pegs and square pegs, but every now and then variation comes up with a peg that's neither one. You are determined to CRAM those pegs into one hole or the other, and they simply don't fit. No matter how determined you are to BELIEVE that every peg MUST be round or square, some simply are not. This biological reality is independent of political ideology.
     
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    My understanding is that transgender has to do with a disagreement between gender in the physiology and gender in the brain structure. I think the surgeries are fairly rare. I don't know how common transgender is. Do you?
     
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    No I honestly can not. But are you saying transgender NEVER have done such a thing?
     
  23. AmericanNationalist

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    Yes, people can be that deprived. Especially those at the HS and lower levels. Remember, they're naturally curious. If you told them all they had to do was put on make-up, a wig and pretend to be a woman to see a girl's stuff, you think they wouldn't do it? This isn't about politics, this is about thinking back to your teenage years. For me, wasn't that long ago and the temptation would be awfully hard to resist.

    I probably do resist because of my masculine pride.
     
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    It's terrible. Next we'll be restricting pedophiles.
     
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    I know it is not enough to disrupt an entire school because some kid decides he/she wants to play dress-up.

    And I believe that a school should not ignore wishes of the majority of its students just to appease one of them!
     

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