Time For A Jeb Bush Thread!

If that's your idea of bigotry, you'll have to throw Hillary into the same camp. She was as pro-traditional marriage as anyone till the wind started to shift.

 

How far are you willing to go to save those "babies"?

 

Read my bio, and while your at it read my signature line

 

His reply is typical of Republican who like to post innuendo but fail to back up their claims with proof.

 

We have had the slowest recovery from a recession under Obama since WWII. The economy was on a downstroke when Dubya took office and the downstroke was exacerbated by the bi-partisan Iraq War brought about by Slick Willie's incompetence as a CIC! Before Obama is through, he will have doubled the national debt! Nothing Obama has done has helped our country in a positive manner.

 

More along the lines of a Rightwing Radio listener.

Fed simplistic pap and platitudes, they rarely have any substantive or factual (except those things fed to them) to say.

For instance, he says "babies are slaughtered" by abortion....but he would find it very difficult to discuss HOW EXACTLY he would ban abortion and enforce it.

 

It works both ways Mr. Lies, I mean Mr. Truth.

 

See? Guaranteed Rush Limbaugh said this originally. Just "Nuh-huh"...and ignoring the original facts stated in Mr Truth's post.

 

Typical right wing personal attack.

Thanks for conceding that my post is the TRUTH.

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Notice...

he will NEVER offer substantive counter facts that disprove the facts related in that photo.....oh, he'll change the subject....move the goalposts....talk about ANYTHING else....and claim it's a "lie"....

but he'll NEVER disprove those jobs figures with actual facts.

He can't.

 

I'm not impressed overall.

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It was not a personal attack, just a statement of reality.

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I don't listen to Rush, and I haven't seen any believable facts that should be refuted.

 

Don't you mean we need a "Jeb!" thread instead of a "Jeb Bush" thread. Apparently Jeb! wants people to forget he's a Bush. Two horrible Presidents, two nasty recessions. Jeb is just another republican clown among a gaggle of clowns they have running. I doubt he will get the nomination, if he does. He'll get trounced in the general election because the Bush name is tainted for a long time to come.

Kylearan

 

WHO DO you listen to? And don't deny you do. Just use the usual line of

"On occasion, I listen to..."

 

In what sense, exactly, do you suppose that Jeb Bush equated "developers without proper permits" with pedophiles?

 

Fox News, fair and balanced. Once n a while, MSNBC, but only for short periods. CNN a little only. Fox networkl.

I'm on several forums and FB. I am experienced, and consider myself an expert also, but I'm not afraid to admit I am wrong, although that is rare!

 

Will dropping Brother Dub's name really fool anyone?

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... and when pandering to Hispanic Americans it's ¡Jeb!​

 

You ever heard a Fox host tell you something you don't believe is true or didn't already believe was true?

Not Juan Williams or the "liberal"...but Hannity, O'Reilly, etc.

 

When a media entertainment outlet needs to keep insisting that it's "fair and balanced" that should be a dead giveaway to all but the must gullible.

You wonder how many gin-yoo-wine Rolexes® these saps have bought from Yugo boot sales.

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so is this H.W. Brands right? Do you voters really know that your super hero politicians are just pulling the wool over your eyes to get your vote? if that is true then how is that I always see people defending their lying super heros when it's obvious you know they are lying sacks of _ _ _ _?

That's the thing about lies we want to believe them. "To good to be true"

 

I don't agree with everything he says, but if any of this is true. He's got my consideration for my vote.

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Yea, and that Clinton name is a pure as the driven snow. LOL

 

I don't like O'Reilly, and often consider him to simply be full of himself.
Hannity is too predicable as to what he will say, although he is usually correct.

If it wasn't for the low information D voters including the ones simply voting for Santa Claus, neither with any consideration for the betterment of our country, the 2016 would be an easy victory for the Rs. Ds can only win by lies and deceit!

 

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/...voter-rolls-disenfranchised-African-Americans



Jeb's 'sloppy and irresponsible' purge of Florida's voter rolls disenfranchised African Americans



Jeb Bush still doesn't have a good answer for his effort to purge Florida's voter rolls of convicted felons in 1999, the year before the infamous election in which several hundred Sunshine State votes would secure the presidency for his brother, George W. Bush.
Last week, Jeb was queried about the purge that reportedly denied thousands of legal voters of their opportunity to weigh in on the 2000 election. Scott Conroy reports:

Asked during a press conference during a campaign swing through Iowa last week whether he believes that African-Americans were disproportionately affected by those efforts, he waffled a bit before rephrasing the question in his own manner.
“I don’t think so,” he said. “I don’t think there was any -- no, if you’re going to say, ‘Did the Florida Department of Law Enforcement target African-Americans?’ No.”

But that's not how others recall it going down:
“I’ll never the forget people that came up to me and said, ‘You let them steal our votes,’” Rep. Corrine Brown (D-Fla.), who became state's first African-American elected to Congress since Reconstruction when she won her seat in 1992, told The Huffington Post. “So many people were just wiped off the rolls -- people who’d been voting for years and years. You had the obligation to prove that you weren’t a felon.” [...]
“The purge was right out of one of these playbooks in how you diminish minority turnout -- there was absolutely no justification for it,” said Dan Gelber, a former Democratic state legislator and a longtime Bush nemesis.

Head below the fold for more.
Convicted felons were banned from voting in Florida in 1868. State lawmakers passed legislation in 1998 designed to clean up the rolls after voting irregularities were detected in a Miami mayoral race. Bush undertook the felon purge in 1999, the year he took office. But since Florida did not track voters by Social Security numbers, the company contracted to do the purge, Database Technologies Inc. (DBT), instead attempted to match voter records with felons' names and corresponding birth dates and then purge away. It was far from perfect, to say the least.

It became immediately clear that the effort was generating a slew of false positives. Voters in good standing, who happened to share names with convicted felons, but had never been in trouble with the law, were being taken off the voting rolls. [...]
Estimates vary on just how many non-felons in Florida were wrongly denied the right to vote on Election Day, but the total was at least 1,100, according to a 2001 Palm Beach Post analysis, and may have been much higher.

Though Bush had delegated responsibility for the purge and mostly tried to distance himself from the process, a subsequent investigation by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights took issue with Bush's role in the matter.
The report found a “strong basis” for determining that violations of the 1965 Voting Rights Act had occurred during the election in Florida.
African-Americans were nearly 10 times more likely than white voters to have their ballots discounted in Florida, the report found, and it singled out for criticism the felon voter purge’s “sloppy and irresponsible” implementation.

Quoting from the report directly:
"Florida’s overzealous efforts to purge voters from the rolls, conducted under the guise of an anti-fraud campaign, resulted in the inexcusable and patently unjust removal of disproportionate numbers of African American voters from Florida’s voter registration rolls for the November 2000 election." [...]
“The governor, the secretary of state, or the director of the Division of Elections should have provided clear instructions to their subordinates on list maintenance strategies that would protect eligible voters from being erroneously purged from the voter registration rolls."

Unfortunately, the intervening years have done little to repair the damage that has been done to the voting rights of African Americans in the state.
According to a 2012 study by The Sentencing Project, a nonprofit group advocating for judicial sentencing reform, Florida continues to have the highest rate of African-American disenfranchisement in the country with 23 percent of the adult African-American population in the state barred from voting.





Denying the right to vote is a betrayal of the Constitution.

 

So they shared names and birthdates? Very likely no more than a few were affected.

We need voter ID bad! What's fair is fair, no illegals or no felons if it's state law!