Time to Get Real About Ukraine

Yeah, lots of variables to consider there. Economically, Russia's economy is under heavy sanctions and in some trouble because of it, while Ukraine enjoys a lot of foreign support. This is bound to lead to large cumulative differences for both powers.

Re: defensive structures and lines, there are quality of the defenses, quality of the defenders, and type, quality and quantity of the offensive capabilities to consider. Any opening could be very effectively exploited by the Ukrainians to collapse the defense in the area, especially with enough mobility as provided by Bradleys and other relatively fast armored vehicles.

 

You're not objective. You just conclude what you want to be true. If you're not objective, you can come to an erroneous conclusion.

 

You're projecting.

"If you're not objective, you can come to an erroneous conclusion."

As you continue to demonstrate. You're not at all objective when you dismiss everything that goes against your point of view as paid propaganda or some such.

 

**** here with Scott Ritter.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/xi-jinping-in-russia-china-will-‘stand-guard-over-the-world-order’.609208/page-6#post-1074113574

Mr "Russia would never work along side the Wagner group"...

If you can't see by now that he makes his earnings being a Kremlin echo chamber for RT...you are purposefully being ignorant.

 

Are you referring to this?
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...he-world-order’.609208/page-5#post-1074110901

You didn't address this satisfactorily. You have an attitude with no argument.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-about-ukraine.608401/page-42#post-1074113576

I didn't just dismiss what you said in post #1029.

(from post #1030)

I asked you how you were sure it wasn't sophistry.

 

They sure as hell explain them in terms of location! See if you can work out if there was a US camp near to your previously specified area in Iraq.

Wow, all of a sudden you appear to claim genetic expertise on cause and effect on foetuses by toxic load. Bullshit. "It is possible" you say? You are just another in a long line of people unable to assimilate data that conflicts with your fixed position.

Luckily I have no interest in which "side" you take. Nobody is denying DU in massive volume is going to have a contributory effect, but it is nowhere near the toxicity of the lead, mercury and burning gasses cited by me.

 

Nothing you post is important. You see batshit, believe batshit, post batshit. Anything that disputes it is disregarded no matter where it comes from.

 

So, you're just dismissing this info as False.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-about-ukraine.608401/page-42#post-1074113576

Is that correct?

 

You deflected and tried to make it about the source. How do you know anything you hear or read online is true? People have tried to explain the concept of credibility to you, but you just don't seem to get it. I doubt that I can help you.

 

I'm dismissing you as a poster of batshit and lacking an ounce of objectivity or logic. Your ludicrous list of anti-US propaganda has zero analysis. Nothing. You visit one batshit site after another, clump them in one post and claim it is some sort of quantitative proof.
If my rebuttal was 50 links saying otherwise with citations by the finest minds and the most honest people you could find, there would not be the slightest chance you would read it or allow it to sway your biased and immovably fixed opinion.

Show anywhere, significant analyses of that wall of batshit.

 

I already did.
http://www.politicalforum.com/index...he-world-order’.609208/page-5#post-1074110901

I've lived outside of the US for about thirty five years and I've talked to lots of people from the countries I mentioned. They all tell me the same thing. It's all consistent with what those articles and videos say.

Here are some people who explain what the US really does.

https://chomsky.info/
https://petras.lahaine.org/
https://williamblum.org/

 

What is wrong with you? That is a link, to a link to a batshit website. NOWHERE have you offered any analysis!

Yeah, like I'm going to believe your "talked to people" crap! I've spent many years away from the US and I see the opposite. Sure, we aren't angels and there's been some really dumb decisions, but your viewpoint is just batshit.

Nope. They don't explain jack. Blum rightfully criticizes some policy decisions but seems to forget Hanlon's razor!

 

Anyone who lives in a country such as Mexico for a few years and talks to people from all of Latin America will see that this info reflects the views of those people.
http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/american-imperialism.371897/

I lived in Mexico city for three years and eight months and I've been in Madrid since 1993. I've spoken to people from Africa and the Philippines. What they tell me is consistent with what those articles say too. Maybe you've only been to countries such as France and Germany where a lot of people are as out of it as americans are, and maybe you're simply lying.

Here's a good website for people who still don't know about American imperialism.
https://thirdworldtraveler.com/

 

You aren't the spokesperson for "anyone". You are biased, have no logic or critical thinking skills and are incapable of reason or objectivity. You are never interested in any debate, only infecting people with your own beliefs.

Yeah, because all people just "know" and you never tell lies do you!

Or maybe I just don't listen to cranks and fools.

Nope. Batshit - "Visitors are encouraged to buy the books and subscribe to the magazines".

 

I doubt that many people are taking you seriously. People can look at the info and ask people from those countries what they think about said info and decide for themselves.

 

You aren't the spokesperson for "many people". You are biased, have no logic or critical thinking skills and are incapable of reason or objectivity. You are never interested in any debate, only infecting people with your own beliefs.

Sure they can. They just don't need to follow your biased, batshit links or advice.

 

British Challenger 2 tanks arrive in Ukraine for battle with Russia


DOCUMENTARY: British Army Trains Ukrainian Tank Crews on Challenger 2

 

And yet, a primary foreign relations challenge for the US is that too many of those people allegedly oppressed by the US want to come to the US. Go figure. I lived in Africa for twelve years, and I doubt your claims about your foreign experience are true.

 

Foreign Affairs
Agile Ukraine, Lumbering Russia

During more than 13 months of war against one of the world’s largest armies, Ukraine’s military has continually stood out for one quality in particular: its ability to adapt. Over and over, Ukraine has nimbly responded to changing battlefield dynamics and exploited emerging technologies to capitalize on Russia’s mistakes. Despite their limited experience with advanced weapons technology, Ukrainian soldiers quickly graduated from point-and-shoot Javelin and Stinger missile systems to the more sophisticated High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS), which they have used to pummel Russian command centers, logistical assets, and ammunition depots. They have deployed military and commercial drones in increasingly creative ways. And although this is not the first war to play out on social media, the Ukrainians have been giving the world a master class in effective information operations in the digital age. Such is their record of technical and tactical versatility that Ukrainian forces continue to enjoy a sense of momentum, despite the fact that the frontlines have been largely frozen for months.

By contrast, Russian forces have shown limited openness to new tactics or new technologies. Hobbled by bad leadership and terrible morale, the Russian military was slow to recover from its disastrous attempt to seize Kyiv in February 2022 and has struggled to adjust its strategy or learn from its mistakes. This is despite having demonstrated considerable dexterity in its deployments in eastern Ukraine in 2014 and in Syria starting in 2015. In the current war, although Russian military leaders have made some adjustments to alleviate logistical problems and improve coordination on the ground, the Kremlin’s core strategy continues to rely largely on throwing more manpower and firepower at the enemy—a lumbering, high-cost approach that has hardly inspired confidence. Observing this performance, some Western experts have raised the possibility of exceedingly dire scenarios, including a doomed Russian spring offensive, a large-scale mutiny of troops, or even the collapse of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s regime. . . . .

 

Over in Europe, all I got from people is them questioning Biden's declining mental acuity. They seem more concerned with senility than anything else, but I haven't been over there since a year ago May.

 

Ukraine war live updates: German and British tanks arrive in Ukraine; Russia fires supersonic missiles off

 

Putin using Bakhmut to destroy Wagner Group and ‘put its chief in his place’, says ISW

 

Scott is correct -- and it turns out that you are the one who is " biased, have no logic or critical thinking skills and are incapable of reason or objectivity" - that indeed you must listen to cranks and fools .. and may well be "Batshit" -- cause you certainly are projecting large amounts around the space.

The US media keeps the masses stupid w - respect to US imperialism in general .. but information is readily available for anyone who has looked into the issue .. such that a person "Batshit" denial of US imperialism is either an idiot .. or one who simply hasn't looked into the issue. Most simply haven't looked into the issue .. and we will assume you are the latter .. and watch to see if you desperately try to prove otherwise.

A thinking person who has looked into the issue cannot deny that US Imperialism over the last 40 years been a nasty affair but, that our state sponsored propaganda machine has worked very well to keep the people ignorant .. again . simply because most folks don't pay much attention and so get bits and pieces of the mainstream daily pump and dump .. and from this they form an opinion without really thinking about it.

When you spend time in other nations .. "Not on vacation" .. but where you will be immersed in the culture and understand what these folks are being fed by the media on a daily basis .. it is a completely different picture .. as described by Scott.

The effect of propaganda is pretty amazing .. the "public relations" folks have gotten very good .. now more science than art .. this is combined with a lack of education .. in things that matter .. like how Hungary is a country ... "not smarter than a 5th grader" asked the question "what is the capital of Hungary" -- which is perhaps not an easy question.. but the response from the contestant "Hungary is a Country" ?

Bill Maher has done plenty of segments on the problem of American stupidity w/r to US foreign policy and other things .. anything outside own navel in many respects.

but let us not dwell on anecdote .. and focus on the fact that there are still folks out there that believe Saddam was linked to Al Qaeda - That the War in Iraq was a Just War" .. not a completely illegal War of Aggression .. and that Bush should not be sitting in a dungeon right now for War Crimes ... his Father's body dug up and burned with Rotten Ronnie .. for mass Crimes against Humanity .. and we be should not be preparing to put Biden - Obama- Hillary "Lock Them UP" behind bars for similar crimes.

Either one is a moron .. or simply hasn't looked into the issue .. Guessing Beta hasn't looked into the issue .. but, sure likes to pretend otherwise .. projecting lack of "Looking into the issue" onto others. like they are the stupid ones.. how was it put "biased, have no logic or critical thinking skills and are incapable of reason or objectivity"

Beta .. you summed up very well the average American ..yourself included .. but this is not a good descriptor of Scott who hit the nail on the head ... hope it does not hurt to badely...

 

Thank you for the Kremlin perspective.

 

And the Kremlin would be correct. It is only the anti american pieces of human garbage and or complete idiots that think our leaders commiting acts of grave human atrocity is not bad for America - a violation of the main principle on which this nation was founded - and morally sick .. and gonna come back to haunt us.

Our Enemies are not Idiots and so of course they hold the correct perspective .. what other perspective is there Jacko .. What is your perspective on commision of grave acts of human atrocity ..and the propaganda machine .. that only a complete idiot does not realize exists .. or as stated previously .. one who hasn't looked into the issue.

Sup Jacko .. lets hear this perspective on Dragging Children over barbed wire fence .. "till flesh hung from bones" - while parents watched. The Rape - Torture - Murder of US Nuns and Missionaries ...

Had one fellow - who's nick will remain unmentioned - previously attempt to justify and rationalize such atrocities .. now in need of mental care .. You gonna try the same Jack .. run the gauntlet ? This will be a hoot .. give it a go .. I know you want to