Time to invoke the 25th amendment?

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    Funny thing is, we probably agree on more things than we disagree on if we could ever get past the partisan bickering. The above being one I agree 100% with you on.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because there is nothing to defend. We don’t even really like Biden much less call him a hero. Letting you know why Biden was chosen in the election is fair game however and when you use one metric to judge this administration that you didn’t use during the prior one you should expect people to call out the hypocrisy.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The wedge issues have been created to do this — which is why our politics have become so polarized. If Americans don’t stand up to this and say enough I fear where this country will go.
     
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    if we could not get rid of Trump with the 25th, can't get rid of anyone
     
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  5. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    I did not say a word about the last election. I'm saying he is totally incapable of being president and should be removed.

    You admitting you voted for a senile moron is your mistake.
     
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    I don't believe rude, crude, tacky, tasteless with the inability to keep his trap (and fly) shut qualifies him for the 25th.

    He walked a very fine line with some of his crap, but so far, no one has been able to actually prove he crossed it.
     
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    Oh, he crossed more then a few lines and even got impeached, but that's a whole another topic.

    Point is just like with the 2nd amendment and sandyhook, Trump proved we won't be able to invoke the 25th.
    But by all means let people try. I'd like to see the precedent myself.
     
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    Oh it wasn’t a mistake. I would do it again if placed in the same position. The alternative was nightmarish
     
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    Ignoring the democrat primaries maybe....
     
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    Oh I voted against him in the primary. There were a few halfway decent candidates there. Biden was not one of them. Neither was Harris.
     
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    Did General Milley call Russia and tell them he'd give them a heads up if Biden was going to attack them?
     
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    The 2nd Amendment doesn't have anything to do with Sandy Hook. That shooter was a homicidal nut job.

    My view of the 'impeachments' is they were politically based temper tantrums.
     
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    I agree. Likely Biden is a worse failure than most folks make him out to be.
     
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    No that is only for non white enemies.
     
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    Bush had Cheney. Obama had Biden. Trump had Pence. Biden(!) has Harris. The VP is now insurance against the 25th amendment.
     
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    The want of use of the 25th amendment seems to be a fad these days. I can’t count the number of times Democrats wanted to use it to remove Trump for being mentally unstable. Now the Republicans want to use it against Biden. I suppose this is par for the course these days, especially in today’s modern political era of polarization, the great divide and the super, mega, ultra-high partisanship.

    There’s not much difference in how all of America viewed these two presidents in March of their second year, 39% overall job approval for Trump, 41% for Biden. Most Americas were very dissatisfied with both. The only difference is Republicans had a very high approval with Trump while Democrats have a very low approval of him. Today, Democrats have a high approval of Biden, a very low approval of Trump. Only the names changed along with both party’s approval ratings. Independents gave Trump only a 33% approval in March of his second year vs. 38% for Biden. What does this tell us?

    Republicans loved Trump, hate Biden.
    Democrats hated Trump, love Biden.
    Independents, they don’t like neither one. At least at this point in time.

    It seems that as long as we leave the selection of presidential candidates to the existing major parties, we bound to end up with lousy leadership.
     
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    So, how does political disagreements on what Biden allegedly said or not said invok Section 3 of the 25th Admendment? Personally, I think you been watching way too many movies, like Air Force One, and think that is reality. It is not.

    Nothing what Biden has said indicates that Biden is not executing the powers of the Presidency, unless of course you are with Putin. You may disagree with what Biden allegedly said, but that does not mean the 25th Admendment should be invoked, should it?
     
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    And they were just as wrong as conservatives are. In fact, since the passage of the 25th admendment, it has been used twice, once after Reagan was shot, unofficially and second when GWB was president in 2002 while having surgery I think. Both instances were very temporary in nature.
     
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    He's not half black.
     
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    I think this is important to understand and discuss. The "other" trump was so awful, folks, like you chose a cretin instead who has never done anything useful or positive in his entire public life. Never. And instead of actively working to supply alternatives, this is where we ended up. Biden is what we got instead. He was supposed to be the civil, calm, caretaker president. And so far, he's been anything but. And this is the problem with folks who couldn't see past the mean tweets, or the attempts he made to unshackle the people from the chains of those, like Biden. And now you have chains. And if you want to call out the hypocrisy, see the first available mirror.
     
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    80 million patriots disagree with you.
     
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    They would have voted for a trained cat as long as it would get Trump out of office.
     
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    People voting to remove someone from office does not make them 'patriots'.
     
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    It does when the person they are removing is a traitor to the oath taken to the US constitution.
     
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