Time to invoke the 25th amendment?

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    He should put to "follow" "us" all so he can help you see the errors of your ways .... He needs to be here to educate the uneducated... looks like he is in the right spot for that...
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    For the record I do not think Trump won the election. He lost because he did terribly with white male voters who identify themselves as independents, moderates or libertarians. That was a political failure of Trump.

    https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2020

    Of course Covid helped Biden and mail in ballots helped Biden.

    Republicans gained 12 house seats from the same ballots that the presidential election was on.

    Nationwide democrats in federal elections had 5 million more votes than republicans. Biden had 7 million more votes than Trump. So Trump did worse than republicans nationwide.

    Note that Perdue beat Ossoff in November 2020(Same ballots as Trump) but because he did not get 50% they had a run off and republicans failed to turnout in numbers large enough to win that run off.
     
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    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    MRC is not a reliable poll. We have posters here who know about Biden receiving bribes though Hunter and other family members and they do not care. They call it fake news.

    We have Obama on video kissing Russia's ass and acting as a traitor to NATO and they pretend he said something else.

    Republicans gained 12 house seats from those same ballots they were not corrupted that much.
     
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  4. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :buggered: ~ Some think Putin should replace Old Joe ... :bucktooth:
     
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    fmw Well-Known Member

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    But that person is not a traitor and never has been. He is a man with a disagreeable personality.
     
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    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    Has he been indicted as a 'traitor'? Or is that an 'opinion'?
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    No president, not even Trump, has been indicted as a traitor by anyone. Biden has been labeled as a traitor, and so has Trump, Obama, Bush Jr, etc. But this type of argument is for the 1st grade playground society.
     
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    He should be tared and feathered! The gall, posting something like that on the "Political Opinions and Beliefs" forum. :eyepopping:
     
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    Oh the irony of back to back post....
     
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    No, nothing ironic about it. :roll:
     
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    Apparently, the quotation marks around words escaped your notice.
     
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    I'm not the one who used the word, I was inquiring as to the basis of the posters statement.
     
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    Putting it mildly, lol.
     
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    You need to know by now that everything is about Trump.
     
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    Putting it accurately, LOL.
     
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    The real traitors are those who suppressed evidence of Biden's corruption before the election
     
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    What evidence is that?
     
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    I put them there what was ironic" was criticizing someone' because they offered an "opinion" in the "opinion" forum. :roll:
     
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    I asked if that was fact or an opinion. I didn't criticize anything. You'll note the use of a '?' .
     
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    The 25th amendment is a higher hurdle than impeachment, I don't see the point. Is Kamala better than Biden? She's clearly dumber and Biden's mental functioning is clearly underwater.

    THEY’RE SCARED: Poll: Trump leads Biden, Harris in 2024 match-ups.

    “If the 2024 presidential election were held right now, the poll finds Trump getting 47 percent support compared to 41 percent for Biden. Twelve percent of voters are undecided. Vice President Harris performs even worse in a hypothetical match-up with Trump. Forty-nine percent said they would choose Trump, while 38 percent said they would support Harris.”

    Trump beats Biden by 6 and Harris by 11. They would have never won an unrigged election.

    2022 will be a partial undoing of the corrupt 2020 election.
    2024 should undo it completely.
     
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    Time to invoke the 25th amendment?


    You want Kamala Harris or Pelosi to become the POTUS? o_O
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ Let us pray ... :pray:
     
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    Nah I disagree with this, he's not medically incapacitated.

    Technically they can invoke it for any reason, even just because he doesn't like chocolate icecream, but that's not a good idea.

    He doesn't have a chance in hell of winning the next election, focus on that and relentlessly attack him on substantive policy grounds instead.

    It's not like there's any shortage of policy criticisms of him.

    Also, it would never be invoked by his cabinet and if it was Kamala would take over.
     
  24. Xyce

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    No, it's not.

    “The more people you force to vote by mail, the more invalid ballots you will generate,” said Ion Sancho, a former election supervisor in Leon County, Florida. (1)

    This was once a perfectly palatable thing to say. In fact, it was a quote cited in the New York Times just eight years ago, talking about the higher risk of voter fraud with absentee voting. The Times piece goes on to say that voter fraud with absentee voting is "vastly more prevalent than the in-person voting fraud." (1) In fact, according to a report cited in the Wall Street Journal, "Absentee-ballot fraud is a far bigger problem than voter-impersonation fraud--about 50 times more common." (2)

    In fact, according to Mark Joseph Stern at Slate, "Voter fraud occurs through absentee ballots. The vast majority of voter fraud prosecutions . . . involve absentee ballots that were illegally cast. And the only voting fraud schemes with the potential to actually swing elections involved mail-in ballots." (3)

    Why is absentee voting so ripe for corruption? One reason has to do with the state of our electoral landscape. "Approximately 24 million--one of every eight--voter registrations in the United States are no longer valid or are significantly inaccurate. More than 1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters. Approximately 2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state." (6) In conjunction with that, the lack of transparency relative to in-person voting is a recipe for more fraud, since with absentee voting, "the ballot is cast outside the public eye, and thus the opportunities for coercion and voter impersonation are greater. Second, the transmission path for VBM ballots is not as secure as traditional in-person ballots." ( 8 )

    Now saying that absentee voting leads to more voter fraud is point of controversy, a blasphemous pronouncement or evidence of delusion, facts be damned. Not wishing to debauch the dignity of Biden's supposed win, Democrats everywhere, from the liberal mass media, to the Twitterati, to the blue folks on this very forum put on horse blinders to the inconvenient truth about the lack of integrity of absentee voting.

    Charles Stewart, a Kenan Sahin Distinguished Professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, says, "The consensus, among people who study fraud carefully, is that voting by mail is a much more fertile area for fraud than voting in person." The retort to this conclusion by the folks on this forum and Democrats deluded with TDS will be to stick their fingers in their ears and stomp up and down.

    A largely rehashed defense against this is the lack of evidence to prove that enough voter fraud existed to overturn the 2020 election. The problem with this argument is that voter fraud is actually very hard to prove. The data to extrapolate is often incomplete to make a clear-cut determination. Forensic teams would have to "analyze each vote, cross-reference it with lists of eligible voters, check those, and drill deep on any suspicious cases." (5)

    Trying to find enough evidence to prove an election was stolen can take a long time, especially when you factor in how high the office is. For example, it took over 50 years to gather enough evidence to prove that Lyndon B. Johnson stole a US Senate seat in a 1948 election. (7)

    In conclusion, given the unnecessary implementation of nationwide absentee voting in this election, I highly doubt that Biden was legitimately elected president. The guy has been running for president for the last 30 years. Except for this election, he never made it past the Democrat presidential primaries. Now I am expected to believe that, despite being in his basement for almost the entirety of his campaign and when he does leave it, he can hardly be understood, he still manages to get more votes than any other candidate for president before him? Sorry, but that stretches the imagination to the point of absurdity.

    1. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/...il-faulty-ballots-could-impact-elections.html
    2. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443864204577621732936167586
    3. https://slate.com/news-and-politics...tee-ballots-but-republicans-wont-stop-it.html
    4. https://www.npr.org/2018/12/08/6745...-could-alleged-n-c-election-fraud-change-that
    5. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443864204577621732936167586
    6. https://www.pewtrusts.org/~/media/l...ets/2012/pewupgradingvoterregistrationpdf.pdf
    7. https://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/11/us/how-johnson-won-election-he-d-lost.html)
    8. https://electionlab.mit.edu/research/voting-mail-and-absentee-voting
     
  25. Xyce

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    That number is highly questionable. And no one who voted for Biden is a patriot. The Democrat Party is for flag burning. The Democrat Party was largely for the BLM and Antifa riots that cost nearly $2 billion in damages and killed about a dozen people, and it lasted for months. Now, with Biden, we have 40-year-high inflation, low labor participation rate, high gas prices, food shortages, and we may be on the brink of World War 3. None of that happened under Trump, which is why patriots only voted for Trump.
     
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