'Toughest gun laws in Australia' to be introduced in WA after shooting at Perth school

Do you think we live in a Utopia where there is no violent crime?

 

We just sent special forces, AKA special Ops.

 

I understand you have dual citizenship so you're probably speaking about Australia

 

You attend to it your way and we will attend to our violent crime our way. For many many reasons we don't want peeps carrying around guns for self protection in Australia.

 

Why aren’t more Aussies dead? BTW our laws are different so what might not be a crime here might be crime in the USA and vice versa.

https://themigration.com.au/2021/10/21/is-australia-safer-than-america/

 

Yeah, sorry if that was unclear. I was just talking about Australian contributions.

@AARguy

 

And BTW not only do we rank higher than the USA in terms of the “freedom index” the “happiness index” but also the “peace index”

 

If you're dependent upon Heller, you're about 14 years behind the times. There are the details on the case, and the details on the decision. In both Caetano v Massachusetts and Maloney v Singas, restrictions on weapons other than handguns were overturned with the courts citing Heller and "in common use" both times. Since Bruen SCOTUS has GVRd (Granted cert to the plaintiffs, Vacated the decisions and Remanded the cases back to the lower courts for review under Bruen) cases upholding AWBs, magazine capacity restrictions, concealed carry restrictions, etc. If SCOTUS didn't believe that the laws previously upheld by Miller v Bonta, Duncan v Bonta, Young v Hawaii and Bianchi v Frosh, among others, were unconstitutional, they wouldn't have GVRd the cases supporting those laws.

If the lower courts don't decision the cases in accordance with the Bruen guidance, do you that that the Court who decided those cases needed review under Bruen won't overturn those rulings?

Scalia in Heller and Alito in McDonald, later, expressed a very limited view of what gun control laws could be considered Constitutional.
DC v Heller
"Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms. Miller’s holding that the sorts of weapons protected are those “in common use at the time” finds support in the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of dangerous and unusual weapons."
Chicago v McDonald.
"We made it clear in Heller that our holding did not cast doubt on such longstanding regulatory measures as “prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill,” “laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.” Id., at ___–___ (slip op., at 54–55). We repeat those assurances here. "

The restrictions listed in these two opinions, all existing laws at the time, are the only ones that can be presumed to be Constitutional. Nothing else can be presumed to be Constitutional.

All four SCOTUS 2A decisions this century overturned exist gun control laws.

 

What would be the first step in the US adopting Australia style gun control?

 

Initially for the Second Gulf War they sent a 500 man special ops detachment along with some aviation and naval assets. By 2009 the number of Australian army boots on the ground had grown to 1500. I didn't see any details on what the extra 1000 troops consisted of.

 

mass insanity?

 

My first tour in Iraq I was a "Senior Trainer" (contractor) for the "NEW IRAQI ARMY" at Camp Caldwell, also referred to as KMTB (Kir Kush Military Training Base). The Australians were put in charge of the training effort (managing it, not actually doing it) because the American standards for graduation from training were too high for the Iraqi's to meet. We had a small contingent of Aussie Soldiers on base. They acted like they were college kids, pulling pranks and playing more than working. One time they drove a vehicle into a column of marching Iraqi Soldiers because they thought it would be funny to see them scatter. (No one was hurt.)

 

Are you insinuating that “black” = “ criminal”?
None of the stats line up. We are a safer nation

 

So since we have gotten down into the ditch of juvenile taunting of each other.....

You're so happy and peaceful that you have to come to a United States forum.

So there is that.

It seems that our United States citizens rights for gun ownership really upsets you.
Since you seem to have to appear in every thread related to guns.

So post your little tongue sticking out thing about that... Or just report my post

 

Thanks for reminding me how fortunate I am to have retired in a state that has "Constitutional Carry", where any legal gun owner can carry open or concealed, unencumbered by any registration, permits, waiting periods, magazine capacity restrictions, etc. This state has declared itself a "Second Amendment Sanctuary" to reinforce Constitutional law as blue states have become a sanctuary for illegal immigrants, violating federal immigration laws.

TEXAS!!! WHERE FREEDOM LIVES!!!

 

You couldn’t

The steps we took won’t work there BUT a that does not mean you should throw your hands in the air. Concentrate on just sensible steps like encouraging firearm securement

 

Where on Earth do you get that insinuation from?

But since you mentioned it a lot of violent crime in the United States is perpetuated by a percentage of people who fall within 13% of the population.

You don't have enough black people of African descent to equal even 1% of your population.

You should come live in the United States for 15 years and see if your perception doesn't change

 

Pity you have a lower “freedom index” than we do

 

I want to hear from them.

 

Then maybe the USA should address the root cause of that statistic and “hint” it ain’t the melon in content of the skin

 

Black = victim. The homicide victimization rate for white non-Hispanics, accord to the latest CDC data (2021) is 2.1. The homicide victimization rate for Black non-Hispanics is 27.0.

 

Yep! Our politics are boring

 

We do encourage firearm securement. See Project Childsafe. If there were tax benefits for secure storage for firearms that would help, too. Haven't seen that bill in Congress yet.

 

What is the root cause?

 

That is sad. Why is that not being addressed?