Trump: America's Greatness Happened Because of 'Jesus Christ and His Followers and His Church'

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    imagine if any other God got a child pregnant and said he was the child that enter our world through her
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    You mean the woman that was engaged to be married? The virgin that gave birth to the Son of God?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the child named Mary, yep, that one

    she had to get married, so she did not get stoned to death as that was their beliefs at the time
     
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    Not a woman. Practically a pre-teen
     
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    Right about what ? - a few pet issues .. just like the Blue hoard .. while getting everything else wrong.

    For example - - Reds hatred of essential liberty .. Your all in favor of authoritarianism and the nanny state I take it
     
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    Authoritarianism as the nanny state are traits of the secular progressive left.
     
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    She was already engaged to be married before The Holy Spirit placed Jesus in her in a non sexual manner.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No kidding dingledorf .. we covered that in the previous post .. what part of ... We are talking about the Right not the left is escaping your attention ? and what is your issue with "Secularism" . do you have the faintest clue what Secularism is ?
     
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    before Jesus hung out in this child's womb for 9 months, then exited it?
     
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    Twas a non sexual insertion was it .. ICY :) har har .. and where in the Bible were you informed of this and since the Holy Spirit "IS" Jesus .. is this then not Jesus going into his mother ? but hey ... the man made trinity doctrine is an incestual as it gets .. but let is leave those questions of which you have not pondered for later .. we have a much more pressing question .. one very enlightened question indeed..
    and forgive me for presuming somewhat but .. does this line not lead to one of my favorite questions for those so inclined .. to force religious belief on others through physical violence "Law" violating sacred essential liberty...

    Jeffy - tell me - When doth that soul arrive .. in the fleshy abode will call home for some time... and then leave .. to where ? and where doth the soul come from to begin with.

    That would be 3 questions sport .. the first one being the most pressing if you are not game for the other two.. but do feel free to address all 3 :)
     
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    And some of them are the most judgemental people on this earth even not believing that Christians are not really Christians if they don't believe their particular brand of Christianity.
     
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    I was wondering how he could get more dumb, and here we are.
     
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    According to the Gospel of John 1:1, yes.
     
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    Most Biblical experts put Mary as 13, maybe 12. Women in those days were married by the time they were 15 years old. Child birth was dangerous to those who were over 20. and the whole game was to pass down your seed as quickly as possible and as young as possible. Joseph was probably 15 or 16.
     
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    Nope that's you guys.
     
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    talk about grooming children back then, wow
     
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    The Covid state was proof positive of the nanny authoritarianism of the secular progressive left. The amount of control they exerted with religious fervor in places they had control over was proof that it’s all your side.
     
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    You answered to the wrong person .. are you trying to hide ? Indeed the Covid state was Blue authoritarianism but, we are not talking about authoritarianism on the Blue side ... We are talking about the fundamentalist wing-nuts on the red side .. wanting to force their religious beliefs on others through physical violence ... "Sharia -Law Stylo"

    and why you say I am on the Blue side .. I am not a partisan hack like the crowd in which you hang.. unable to see well through those thick rose colored glasses .. unable to engage in self criticism .. just like Blue .. having become what you profess to hate.
     
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    Different times, different cultures. It was the norm in the days of antiquity.
     
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    what verse did you get that from?

    the reality is, some man got a child pregnant, and a man married her so she did not get stoned due to the religion of the time
     
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    does that make it ok then?

    God did a bad thing, but back then he did not know better? good thing God has changed then
     
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    Jesus never had a church.
    Man made churches to honor or blaspheme him.
    There's literally 1000s of churches.
    trump as usual, knows nothing about what he rants about.
     
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    For today no, but it was okay then because of the societal norms of the day. That is why context is everything when dealing with certain words or events that are unacceptable now but were acceptable then. You have to put yourself in that time period of what it was like then and leave all of our modern conveniences out of the picture. In those days, people married young. Even Cleopatra was not the age of Elizabeth Taylor when she had sex with Julius Ceasar who may look 20 years older than she was. Julius Casaer was probably 30 at that time and Cleopatra was maybe 15 or 16, and a queen of Greek Descent, married to her brother. That was the Egyptian, Pharoh way in those days.

    Remember, Christ is not the blond hair, blue-eyed person we see in TV or on Frescas at the Sistine Chapel. He was what we would call a Palestinian with dark hair, brown eyes, and a very tan skin to be historically accurate.
     
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    Wrong. Read the bible some time.

    ...
    Governments Are Established by God
    13 Everyone must submit to the governing authorities. For no authority exists except by God, and the authorities that do exist have been established by God. 2 Therefore the one who rebels against the authority is opposing God’s institution, and those who oppose will bring judgment on themselves.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 13&version=EHV
     

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