Trump: America's Greatness Happened Because of 'Jesus Christ and His Followers and His Church'

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    …"Our country needs a savior right now and our country has a Savior -- and that’s not me," said Trump. "That’s somebody much higher up than me. Much higher up."

    "We just do what we have to do," he continued. "But the life and death and resurrection of Jesus Christ forever changed the world. It’s impossible to think of the life of our own country without the influence of His example and of His teachings."…

    …"Let us thank Almighty God for our nation, for our precious freedoms, and most of all -- and I have to say this -- for the gift of God‘s everlasting mercy and grace," said the former president. "We ask God to bless our nation and our people with faith and hope and love and peace.”…







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    Trumps words are so right on. He got it exactly right in his remarks. Jesus did bless America through most of our history. We’ve had great leaders in the past who like Trump recognizes the source of our national strength and our American exceptionalism.
     
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    False

    The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
    John Adams

    Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.... During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution.
    James Madison

    This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.
    John Adams

    The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe with blood for centuries.
    James Madison

    The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason.
    Benjamin Franklin

    The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.
    Abraham Lincoln
     
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    It’s sad that God has stopped blessing our nation the last 25 months or so. We need as Abraham Lincoln said a time of fasting, humiliationon our two coast, and prayer to restore what the secular left has caused to be removed from us. Trump is right as to the source of our greatness. MAGA!
     
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    Oh, so now we "Selectively" pay attention and even quote our founding fathers :)

    IRONY
     
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    The Founders, The Bible. They only resort to quoting either when they they can use either taken out of context against those who hold either or both in the highest regard.
     
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    Was Jesus blessing us when we had millions of people enslaved?

    Does he just bless white people? Why would his blessings include enslaving millions of people to do our labor?
     
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    Don't forget rewrites and misinterpretation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    See gentrification/pronouns and H57 sex theory :roll:
     
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    No that was free will.. You don't know much about the bible and man's freedom to dig his own hole :)

     
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    So why wasn't Jesus blessing the slaves?

    Were the slaves also exercising free will?
     
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    He did for their sins, what more do you want? After that, we were on our own, so how are you doing with that gift?
     
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    Thankfully, Jesus blessed me with being a straight white male born in the US. I certainly can see how people like me feel blessed by Jesus.
     
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    God has blessed you with that ;) His son was a teacher and died for all mankind's sins, or fresh start with knowledge ;)
     
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    This Lincoln?
    The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma.
    Abraham Lincoln
     
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    God didn't want us to have free will, he said DON'T eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
     
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    god sent a scourge upon this nation in 2016.
     
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    God punished us severely for the original sin of slavery. Four long years of war and over 600,000!dead in the battle to be rid of it. We were likely punished by God more severely than any nation ever engaged in it within its borders certainly since Egypt was. We did not become a world leader and global power until we did eradicate it.
     
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    No, that hit us in late 2020. We are still suffering under it.
     
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    Who was god punishing during the holocaust?

    How do we know slavery wasn't punishment for the Africans?
     
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    He gave them free will to do it or not do it. Each choice had its own consequences.
     
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    Most acts done by evil people to other people are not Gods punishment but are simply the evil effects of sin as the acts of evil people affect others around them regardless of their own situation. There were so many innocents killed at the hands of state sponsored Godless atheism…
     
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    Dude - the Great Plague (Covid) hit with full force WHILE
    Trump was in office, so please take your sanctimonious BS and ... well, stop pretending your bubble world is reality.
     
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    How do we decide what is punishment from God and what is just evil people doing free will?
     
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    Christians fighting Christians... THAT was the Civil War.
    Just about every other nation ended Slavery through edict and laws WITHOUT the crazy bloodshed.
    We were just stupid, pig-headed and greedy.
     
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    You're wrong ;) Really, I mean it's only in the first chapter of the bible. How does a person not even make it thru one chapter? Better yet, who would someone make themselves look that uniformed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

     
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    And yet there is, at this very moment men, women and children being sold and held as slaves! With the Southern Border being a hub for it!!

    Sex & Modern Slavery: US-Mexico border is a human trafficking hub for sex trade and forced labor | MEAWW
    how much slave trade happens on the U.S. southern border - Search (bing.com)

    And elsewhere
    Slavery in contemporary Africa - Wikipedia
    Africa current slave trade - Search (bing.com)

    Go-GO Bydummy and those ever slave loving Dixiecrats :) a vote for Democrats is a vote for modern day slavery and holding tight to historic ideology
     
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