Trump barred from being President of Colorado.

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm pretty sure factcheck.org leans left. Because they give us the FACTS. And it just so happens that the facts lean left.

    Purely coincidental that, for now, the Republican Party is the party of lies. Maybe at some point in the future Democrats will have a Trump-like deity, and then, if factcheck.org still aligns with the facts, they will then lean right.
     
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    Cognitive Bias, however confirmation that they are not neutral. Thanks for sharing.
     
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    So, no one?

    Here's something else to consider and I'm sure it will be dismissed because Pence was his VP, however since then it's clear that they are at odds...

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike...ion-tucker-carlson_n_64b1ad57e4b038c60cc47e60
     
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    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if any state is going to disqualify Biden in their primaries because he didn't do some of the things that Trump did and It won't surprise if other states disqualify Donald Trump from the caucuses and primaries in the months to come.
     
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    It will be dead the minute SCOTUS is done.
     
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    It could come down to Haley and Desantis if and when Trump is out of the way.
     
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    It was this quote

    "There are people in the United States that don't want Trump to be President again and they have their reasons for this. The people want to hold on to their democracy for as long as they can. There is no real chance if Trump were to getr in there again. I don't blame the people for feeling this way."

    you can replace Biden with Trump and it would be equally true to some people.

    "There are people in the United States that don't want Biden to be President again and they have their reasons for this. The people want to hold on to their democracy for as long as they can. There is no real chance if Biden were to ger in there again. I don't blame the people for feeling this way."


    The statements, to me, demonstrate a lack of understanding on how the three levels of government operate with the checks and balances.

    But if one side is successful at completely demonizing the other, and eliminating them, then it's a probable outcome.
     
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    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

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    You're right about a majority that do not want Trump as President again and that is the bottom line.
     
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    That's not what I said. Lame straw man argument on your part.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You can't equate Biden to Trump in ANY context. People who don't want Biden as President believe that somebody else would be better. People who don't want Trump for President understand that, if he is, that might be the last elections in which we actually get to vote.

    Apples an oranges.
     
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    That's your opinion. I already explained how others have the opposite opinion. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No! That is NOT my opinion.

    Have you ever considered following the news? That Trump is a criminal is a proven fact. Some of his crimes have already been adjudicated in courts.

    Biden, on the other hand... .they haven't even managed to come up with something to accuse him OF.

    Facts are NOT your enemy. And they are helpful if you ever expect to make a worthwhile contribution in a website called "Political Forum"
     
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    Yes it is. I already explained how others have the opposite opinion. You can have whatever opinion you want, you just can't force anyone else to have it or to accept that you think it's fact, when it's clearly not.

    You really aren't paying attention at all, are you? That statement of yours is a strong indicator confirmation bias on your part. You've done it once before in this thread that I'm aware of. It looks like it's a pattern of behavior.
     
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    And your opinion that facts are "opinions" is promoted only by ONE side: MAGAs. Non-MAGAs understand the difference between facts and opinions.

    The case against Trump is based on facts that anybody who is willing to take the time to check them can verify. So far, the accusations against Biden are nothing but opinions, with NO facts that anybody can point to.

    I honestly think you would look better if you just came out and admitted your REAL political position. Acting as if you were "caught in the middle" has NEVER worked for anybody in this forum. Their REAL position always comes to light. Just like yours has now.
     
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    You're getting hostile and upset because someone (many) don't accept your beliefs and opinions as facts. That's what happens when you go too deep down the rabbit hole of one parties ideology, you can't see the trees from the forrest. It's hard for people that have fallen for the two party trap to understand that some of us aren't buying it. I get it, even if I don't understand why so many fall for this trap. I prefer they free their mind rather than always trying to force square pegs into round holes.

    There's far more than just accusations but you believe no wrong has been done so anything that confirms that bias you will take hook line and sinker as truth. That's the danger of the trap of being a two party believer, and picking one. You have to fall for all the lies that party feeds you. You no longer can think critically about much. Wasting a mind like that is a shame.
     
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    ??? The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prevents him activating the National Guard for domestic police duties without local requests. DC Mayor/ Police requested a small number that they insisted they be unarmed and only used for logistic purposes

    Pentagon approves DC mayor's request to deploy National Guard for upcoming demonstrations | CNN Politics

    january6clearinghouseMayorMurielBowserLettertoDOJDODJan52021.pdf (justsecurity.org)

    Such strong opinions regarding matters you know nothing about.
     
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