Trump indicted over hush money payments in Stormy Daniels probe

Dammit... Jack Smith is falling into the same trap every prosecutor who ever targeted Trump did...

You have him on clear illegal behavior, but then, you find a thread that leads to more possible illegal behavior, so the first case gets pushed back trying to tie everything up into a single package.

NO JACK.... Don't look into his eyes!!

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/justic...nclude-liv-golf-inquiry-report-125744173.html

Note that there will be a LIV golf "event" very close to me this summer. I'm a pretty big golf fan and you literally couldn't pay me to go...

 

Here is the filing to get this moved from state to federal court.

There are some good points in there, and some obvious lies in there as well....

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23798502-trump-filing-to-move-ny-case-to-federal-court

An 89 yo federal judge has been appointed to hear this case.

 

You seem to be following this case closer than most so-called Americans...

Didja see ye olde Gag Order was implemented today

SNIP
A New York judge banned Donald Trump from posting any evidence on social media in his ongoing "hush-money" case after prosecutors accused the former president of having a history of targeting witnesses.

The order also stops Trump from publicly discussing details about witnesses involved in the case or any other evidence prosecutors plan to use against him.
ENDSNIP

https://www.yahoo.com/news/read-gag-order-muzzling-trump-230522515.html

What's the over/under (in minutes) before he violates? No way he's going to be able to stay away from talking about Cohen...

 

Reminds me of his NYC 2.5 million fine Charity case when his kids (him?) had to take classes, I guess on how not to siphon money for personal stuff..

Judge orders Trump to attend lecture on how not to violate evidence disclosure rules: report
Source: raw story
Matthew Chapman May 11, 2023, 8:52 PM ET

"Former President Donald Trump was ordered by a Manhattan Supreme Court Judge to submit to a meeting giving him instructions on how to comply with an order restricting him from using evidence in his criminal case to attack witnesses, reported the Associated Press on Thursday.

"Judge Juan Manuel Merchan scheduled the hybrid hearing — the former president on a TV screen, his lawyers and prosecutors in court — to go over the restrictions with Trump and to make clear that he risks being held in contempt if he violates them," reported Michael R. Sisak. "The case is continuing in state court even as Trump’s lawyers seek to have it moved to federal court. U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein, who is considering the transfer request, issued an order this week setting paperwork deadlines and a hearing for late June."

"Merchan, still in charge while that drama plays out, agreed to instruct Trump on the rules by video, rather than in person"

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-protective-order/

 

No actual evidence of any actual crime, yet he seeks more evidence of other non crimes lol. The witch hunt continues.

 

It's truly like dealing with a 5 year old... He needs to be told how not to post stuff about his trial on his social media account..

I hope the judge wags his finger and uses Mango's full name a few times.... that sometimes works with incorrigible toddlers.....

Read my signature for the inevitable response from his lawyers...

 

The judge needs to cover all the bases.

"Donald Trump, an American businessman, politician, and former president of the United States has used several pseudonyms, including "John Barron" (or "John Baron"), "John Miller" and "David Dennison". His practice of sometimes speaking to the media under the guise of a spokesperson has been described as "an open secret" at the Trump Organization and in New York media circles.[1]"

cont: lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseud...n American businessman," and "David Dennison".

 

This proves we NEED a forum (and individual case threads) on all of Trumps legal cases, for adding additional information, like I'm about to do.

Last week, a judge ruled against Trump wanting to move his Bragg case to Federal Court (stunner!!).

Today, his is appealing that decision, setting himself up for another loss..

He's both a glutton and a glutton for punishment

SNIP
Former President Trump on Friday appealed a judge’s ruling that mandated his hush money criminal case be tried in state court in New York.

Trump attorneys Todd Blanche and Susan Necheles filed a notice of appeal Friday afternoon, the first step in taking the dispute to the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

Trump sought to remove the state case to federal court, arguing it must be transferred because it involves important federal questions, including whether he should face charges for alleged crimes that occurred while he was in office. Doing so would increase the potential jury pool, which is currently limited to the heavily-Democratic population of Manhattan.
ENDSNIP

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-appeals-decision-keeping-hush-210516695.html

I imagine we'll have a refusal by this time next week.

 

We know Michael Cohen will be there.
Will the prosecutors call Stormy too? lol
Good times indeed!


'Prosecutors seek gag order on Trump in New York hush money trial'
BY ZACH SCHONFELD - 02/26/24 2:01 PM ET

'Manhattan prosecutors are newly seeking to impose a gag order on former President Trump as his hush money criminal trial approaches, insisting protections are needed for jurors, witnesses and others involved in the case.

The requested restrictions on Trump’s speech mimic those imposed on him in his criminal case in Washington, D.C., and would limit Trump’s ability to make certain public comments during what is slated to be the first-ever criminal trial of a former president.'


cont:
https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...-order-on-trump-in-new-york-hush-money-trial/

 

There's nothing to call Stormy about there's nothing illegal with NDAs.

You this one's already decided in the court it was malicious prosecution in the first place to go after him or something that is perfectly legal.

 

Say wha?
Oh, and Karen McDougal too, I forget about her.

'Trump seeks to block Stormy Daniels, Michael Cohen from testifying at NY hush money trial'
BY ZACH SCHONFELD AND ELLA LEE - 02/26/24 4:38 PM ET


'Trump attorney Todd Blanche moved to block testimony from Michael Cohen, Trump’s ex-fixer, and two women he paid to stay quiet about affairs they alleged with Trump: Porn actress Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal.

The 47-page motion attacks the witnesses’ credibility at length, casting Cohen as a “liar” and suggesting Daniels would offer “false” and “salacious” testimony.

Trump’s lawyers also took aim at how prosecutors have described the hush money payments as a “catch-and-kill” scheme to quash negative information about Trump in advance of the 2016 presidential election. '

cont
https://thehill.com/homenews/4490109-trump-block-stormy-daniels-michael-cohen-ny-hush-money-trial/

 

Thats what all the Trumpers have been crying about since Orange lost his fraud case.

How about we let this one proceed to verdict ?

 

Some welcome comic relief pertaining to Trump.

47 page motion.

TABLE OF CONTENTS I. INTRODUCTION .................................................................................................................. 1 II. APPLICABLE LAW .............................................................................................................. 3 III. ARGUMENT .......................................................................................................................... 4 A. The People Should Be Precluded From Suborning Michael Cohen’s Perjury ................... 4 1. Background ..................................................................................................................... 4 2. Discussion ....................................................................................................................... 7 B. The Court Should Preclude The People From Arguing That President Trump Sought To Improperly “Influence” The 2016 Election ................................................................................ 8 C. The Court Should Preclude Improper Arguments On The “Intent To Defraud” Element 10 1. Intent To Commit Or Conceal A Predicate Offense Is Not “Intent To Defraud” ......... 11 2. Arguments Regarding “Intent To Defraud” The Electorate Are Legally Invalid ......... 11 D. The Court Should Preclude Evidence And Argument Concerning The So-Called “Catch And Kill” Scheme ..................................................................................................................... 13 E. The Court Should Preclude Testimony From Or Regarding Dino Sajudin ...................... 14 F. The Court Should Preclude Testimony From Or Regarding Karen McDougal ............... 15 G. The Court Should Preclude Testimony From Clifford ..................................................... 18 H. The Court Should Preclude Evidence Regarding The So-Called Access Hollywood Recording .................................................................................................................................. 19 I. The Court Should Preclude The People From Presenting Meritless Arguments Concerning FECA’s Ambit....................................................................................................... 20 1. The Alleged Payments To McDougal And Clifford Did Not, As A Matter of Law, Violate FECA........................................................................................................................ 21 a. The Alleged Payments Were Not Made “For the Purpose of Influencing” The Election ............................................................................................................................. 22 b. The Payments Would Have Been Made “Irrespective Of The Candidacy” ............. 27 2. Arguments Assuming The People’s Erroneous Interpretations Of FECA Should Be Precluded............................................................................................................................... 29 J. The Court Should Preclude Evidence Of Third Parties’ Admissions Of FECA Violations 30 K. The Court Should Preclude Evidence Concerning AMI’s Books And Records .............. 32 L. The Court Should Preclude Evidence And Argument That President Trump Or His Trust Is The § 175.10 “Enterprise” .................................................................................................... 33 M. The Court Should Preclude The Alleged Notes By Allen Weisselberg ........................... 35 N. The Court Should Preclude Evidence Concerning Mayor Rudolph Giuliani ................... 36 1. Background ................................................................................................................... 37 SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK COUNTY OF NEW YORK THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, -against - DONALD J. TRUMP, Defendant. Index No. 71543-23 PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP’S MOTIONS IN LIMINE'

Read

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24441498-trump-hush-money-motions-in-limine

 

No need. The only verdict you can give over something that is at the crime it's not guilty.

NDAs are still perfectly legal.

 

Thanks but I’ll wait for a verdict, not the opinion of a Trump supporter.

 

The left would indict Trump for the color of his tie if they thought they could do political damage by doing so.

Wise people know that the people who are really unit for office are the people so lacking in moral values they would sink to that.
Not all people are wise people.

 

I already told you what it will be it's not illegal.

That's not an opinion that it's illegal fact. You can wait but it will be as I said.

 

Thank you, I’ll wait for due process, guilty or not guilty.

 

Is it legal to use campaign funds to bribe someone before a national election as to not hurt your chances? Aka election interference and misuse of funds

 

So would anyone provided it was against the law and they had a case.

Wise people wouldn’t donate money to a con man. Trump supporters are act like they’re not wise.

 

If due process happens it can't be guilty because it's not illegal.

You can wait but non crimes will never be crimes. You have to change the law for that to happen.

 

Anytime you pay someone to do anything at all in an election that's a bribe so yes.

 

These cases against the man are only fueling his base to re-elect him as the next President of the United States. Way to go Democrats. Your actions built this mess.

 

Tha aaaaaat's



Nonsense. You have a misguided idea of how our legal system works.



"Democrats" haven't done **** "against the man". TRaitor tRump is the architect of his own problems.



His base would crawl across broken glass to vote for him ... AFTER ... giving him their last dime, right down to the kids lunch money. "Democrats" have NOTHING to do with that.

But! TRaitor tRump AbsaByGodLutely has created quite a mess. You got that right even though your blaming the wrong folks. Who are your countrymen; btw.

 

Do keep up.

'Trump charged with 34 felony counts in hush money scheme '

"All 34 counts against Trump are linked to a series of checks that were written to Cohen to reimburse him for his role in paying off Daniels. Those payments, made over 12 months, were recorded in various internal company documents as being for a legal retainer that prosecutors say didn’t exist. Cohen testified before the grand jury and is expected to be a star prosecution witness."

read:
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-arraignment-hush-money-81225510ef7638494852816878f612f0