Trump insinuates using rifles to fire on Liz Cheney

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Thanks for the link. Upon reading that statement about summary judgement, I am more convinced than ever that Engoron and James are overstepping their bounds. Engoron refers to 'Groundhog Day' and the defendants statement 'pure sophistry' This does not seem like and objective jurist. He goes on to claim 'this court' has 'ruled' that certain defendant disclaimers do not insulate the defendant from liability. IOW 'whatever I say goes' and to Hell with the law. Engoron seems to say "I AM THE LAW" which he is not. Engoron needs to be impeached and thrown out along with James. They really should be charged with misconduct.
     
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    You say you followed the case, but you can't or won't address the decision.
     
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    We'll see what happens, but I wouldn't be surprised to see the case eventually turn in Trump's favor.

    Geez, too many of the MAGA types around here are incapable of discussing an issue without making absurd assumptions about the views of people with whom they disagree. They remind me of idiots on the left who have no understanding of economics, technology, government or politics.
     
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    You haven't read it, have you?
     
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    The best thing Trump can do is get the cases against him tossed out or otherwise neutralized, then leave the accusers alone.
     
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    You’re still talkin about this, geez man old news. As I’ve said before if biden doesn’t pardon President Trump, the supreme court will in fact overturn his unconstitutional conviction.
     
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    Going by how the appeals court asked questions of the DA lawyers, its going to get tossed.
     
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    I've addressed the decision a hundred times over. That has nothing to do with you not knowing this was a civil fraud case. The judge was a loon and his initial decision to shut down Trump's businesses was denied by the appellate court and wasn't allowed to be enforced because it was blatantly ridiculous.

    Engoron was also overruled by the appellate court when he ruled to include transactions outside the statute of limitations.

    The bond ruling was also overruled by the appellate court for being excessive and ridiculous.

    And then the appellate hearing for the fines was a bloodbath for Bragg's team where they kept asking why the statute was never used on a case without a fraud victim before Trump and wanted to know what the boundaries of the law were. Bragg's team said there was no limit and admitted they have never used the law in this way prior to attacking Trump. The appellate courts insisted there were boundaries and for a civil fraud case (you're welcome for informing you of that) it's odd to assess an excessive fine when nobody was defrauded.

    The appellate court also said it was ridiculous to place an excessive fine on someone because they used a tax assessment value worth a small fraction of its true market value. They were asked to justify that and they were unable to do so considering there was never any other case in NY history where a judge did anything like that before.

    You would have known all of this if you actually followed the case, which you clearly haven't done base on the lack of facts and context included in your posts. The foundation of your posts is simply abbreviated cherry-picked components of one document from a highly biased sourced that has misled you into believing falsehoods, like the incorrect belief that this case wasn't about fraud.
     
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    Correction: James's team, not Bragg's.
     
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    The reason Trump should shut the f up is most people are sick of his BS. So, how come he won? Because Democrats didn't have the good sense to have their candidate say she was going to put a stop to illegals running the border. Then there are people afraid to go out in the big cities. It's flat nuts.

    A lot of people held their nose and voted for Trump.
     
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    Did you actually READ the decision? That was what was being addressed, not the eventual outcome which was likely to go in Trump's favor.
     
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    Now, you're making stuff up.
    Is it too difficult for you to address what was written?
    Rather than discuss decisions, you're treating us to your political spin.
     
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    How about stating what was asked that led you to your conclusion?
     
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    Not a single cite and you make this comment. :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
     
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    The reason Trump should shut the f up is most people are sick of his BS.
    Not the majority of the voters of this country. They came out in such force the election was called on election night when most experts said we’d be waiting for the call for a few days.
    No idea how harris could “claim” she’s gona stop the flow of illegals when she was part of the administration that flooded the country with them in the first place. You really need to understand that we’re not gona put up with soft on criminal laws, and that defund the police s**t. A lot of Walgreens and CVS’s had to close because of that “can’t call the police if it’s under $1000” nonsense. The only people that are ok with this are those that will benefit from it. There’s a lot more but why bother?
     
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    No, some Democrats and a good number of Republicans don't care for Trump. He got their vote because he was the best of a bad bargain.
    Declare we will not accept anyone seeking asylum from Mexico or Canada. Those are safe countries and people should apply there. Canada has already said they won't accept asylum claims from America.
    I need to understand? I've said repeatedly we need to clean up crime. Don't make up positions for me.

    I'm not a Democrat, but I haven't supported a Republican for 44 years because they have no respect for a woman's right to decide when or if she gives birth.
     
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    The premise of this thread is well-debunked at this point once considering clarifying context that Liz Cheney is a war hawk neocon who would never fight in the wars that she wants to start.

    How is this thread still going?
     
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    Abortion was brought into politics to as a means to put pressure on people to choose a side. It has no business in politics at all. This is something that should be between a woman and her doctor and no one else.
    It blows my mind that it’s ok for men to become women with zero restrictions but a woman must put herself on display, go to an abortion clinic and endure protesters? Something very wrong with this picture.
     
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    Indeed.
    Of course, it's not okay.

    Women have enough power these days that they'll eventually force the GOP to stop the abuse.
     
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    They're talking about other subjects. :lol:
     
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    LMAOROG, over a decade later and still right wing talking points?

    Examining the big lie: How the facts of the economic crisis stack up

    The boom and bust was global. Proponents of the Big Lie ignore the worldwide nature of the housing boom and bust.
    A McKinsey Global Institute report noted “from 2000 through 2007, a remarkable run-up in global home prices occurred.” It is highly unlikely that a simultaneous boom and bust everywhere else in the world was caused by one set of factors (ultra-low rates, securitized AAA-rated subprime, derivatives) but had a different set of causes in the United States. Indeed, this might be the biggest obstacle to pushing the false narrative.

    Nonbank mortgage underwriting exploded from 2001 to 2007, along with the private label securitization market, which eclipsed Fannie and Freddie during the boom. Check the mortgage origination data

    Private lenders not subject to congressional regulations collapsed lending standards

    https://archive.ph/20200215001736/h...IQA7G23cN_story.html#selection-1067.1-1067.85
     
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    Barny Frank? Minority member of the GOP controlled House where minority can't stop a single bill?

    What did he have to do with a WORLD WIDE CREDIT BUBBLE AND BUST? One cheered on by Dubya because he literally had zero growth without people using their homes as ATM's 2004-2007?

    Private lenders not subject to congressional regulations collapsed lending standards. Taking up that extra share were nonbanks selling mortgages elsewhere, not to the GSEs. Conforming mortgages had rules that were less profitable than the newfangled loans. Private securitizers — competitors of Fannie and Freddie — grew from 10 percent of the market in 2002 to nearly 40 percent in 2006. As a percentage of all mortgage-backed securities, private securitization grew from 23 percent in 2003 to 56 percent in 2006

    These firms had business models that could be called “Lend-in-order-to-sell-to-Wall-Street-securitizers.” They offered all manner of nontraditional mortgages — the 2/28 adjustable rate mortgages, piggy-back loans, negative amortization loans. These defaulted in huge numbers, far more than the regulated mortgage writers did.
    https://archive.ph/20200215001736/h...QA7G23cN_story.html#selection-1077.0-1077.325


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