Trump Meets TikTok Investor, Suddenly Doesn’t Want to Ban It The former president’s stunning reversa

I'd wager this has nothing to do with Trump's "mind being changed" and everything to do with what this guy promised him.

 

Its up to us to hold the government accountable when it finds a new legal loophole to doing something its not supposed to be doing. Sure, lets get the courts to say they cant access our data without a warrant. They'll hire some thinktanks and law firms to write the law, the thinktanks and lawfirms will be owned by the corporations that want to continue to sell them our data, and they write in a new loophole. And then we can start the process all over again.

What we really need to do is replace all of our elected officials and make it clear that finding loopholes is how you get fired. But since we won't, I guess the endless cycle of legal shenanigans is better than nothing? Sortof?

 

Does it?

I still support a Tik Tok ban, and apparently so does the GOP Congress.

House passes bill that could lead to a TikTok ban; fight shifts to the Senate

Now if you can find an example of some Republican in the House who voted against this who previously supported it because Trump changed his mind, I would be curious.

 

Huuummmm, what will be Trump’s response to today’s House vote;

“Damn Republican fools, you just gave Zuckerberg an opportunity to own Tik Tok?????

 

They already have our personal data. It is used for market targeting, with AI and such. We can start with the data breeches, but it seems you have already given up on holding the elected officials responsible. The courts will always favor the state, one way is to have judges run for office too, but that clutter up things too.

 

What can happen if TikTok is banned? A lot of people would be not all too happy about it especially the young people. Are there parents that would forbid their kids from going on with it? THis will be remaining to be seen. This would be another generation gap crisis like those many before. I don't think Tik Tok would be classified as smut and pornography because most parents would forbit their children to deal with it. Tik Tok as I see it would be something different would it?

 

I don't think 'given up' is a fair assessment. What do you think I should be doing that I'm not already doing to hold our representatives more accountable?

 

All this has to be done in the courts and non partisan. I don't tell others what to do.

 

That's the question, isn't it?

Banning TikTok Would Give the Feds Way Too Much Power

"It's a disturbing gift of unprecedented authority to President Biden and the Surveillance State," said Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.).

'The U.S. House of Representatives approved legislation that would force ByteDance, the popular social media app's Chinese parent company, to sell it to a U.S.-based firm, or else it will be banned in the United States. The vote was 352–65. President Joe Biden has indicated that he will sign the legislation, so now it's just a matter of whether the Senate chooses to act.'

'Oren Cass, a former adviser to Sen. Mitt Romney (R–Utah) and a national conservative policy thinker, described libertarians who oppose the anti-TikTok legislation as "badly isolated" and "hurting their credibility in the conservative coalition."'

'On the other hand, three of the most important political and media figures on the right oppose the legislation. They are Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, and former President Donald Trump. Each has railed against the federal government's misguided efforts to police social media. Musk said the bill would result in "censorship and control." Carlson fretted that the feds could use this new authority to take similar action against X (formerly Twitter). Trump, who previously supported banning TikTok' no longer does after he gave the issue more thought.

'the battle over TikTok is not a battle between libertarians and everyone else; on the contrary, it's a battle between various members of the bipartisan Washington, D.C., establishment who see direct government intervention as the answer to every problem and another group of people—libertarians included—who recognize that this power is likely to be abused.'

https://reason.com/2024/03/14/tiktok-china-ban-federal-government-libertarians/

The concern is that this Chinese App gives too much access, by the CCP, to the American Conversation, especially young folks.

I'm equally concerned about Bribed Joe and his misAdministration abridging our free speech through pressure on Social Media companies.

Bribed Joe and his henchmen could decide that Elon Musk is an "adversary" and force him to sell X back to folks that will bend to Bribed Joe's demands for censorship.

 

The bill passed 352-65, and had sponsors from both parties (32 Republicans, 22 Democrats), so its not just GOP.

Even Bannon admits that Trump has probably been bought, which is no surprise considering his love for money, and current money troubles.

 

I'm glad that after Trump gave the issue more thought, that he came down on the side of Freedom.

TikTok's Opponents Want Chinese-style Censorship in America
'Instead of freeing Americans from censorship, the TikTok bill would tighten the U.S. government's control over social media.'



'TikTok's opponents are using the same arguments that Chinese and Iranian censors can—and do—use to justify cracking down on social media in their own countries.'

The greatest violation to our free speech rights, came not from the CPP but Bribed Joe and the Federal Government.

'Chinese authorities have long maintained a "Great Firewall" over the country's internet, driven by the idea that the success of American tech companies is a threat to their "cyber sovereignty." The Iranian government, too, has begun to embrace the idea of "internet sovereignty," banning foreign social media networks in favor of Iranian-controlled platforms.'

'American lawmakers have started to push the same notions. In a March 5 joint statement, Republican and Democratic members of the House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party claimed that foreign control of a social media platform is a threat to U.S. sovereignty.'

'Forcing TikTok under American control instead of protecting Americans from Chinese censorship, it would bring Chinese-style censorship home.'

Why Republicans would want to hand Bribed Joe MORE power over Social Media baffles me.

 

There’s a blinding glimpse of the obvious!

 

Wait.......

The "three most important media figures on the right".... and this is where conservative amaze me and show they dont care about the truth or facts:

1. Tucker Carlson: The guy who lied about the 2020 election, told you he KNEW HE WAS LYING TO YOU, and cost Fox "news" over a billion dollars ?

2. Elon Musk: ELON MUSK is an "important media figure" ? Elon would sell his parents if he thought he could make a $$$$. The Twitter Files anyone....bueller...bueller....bueller....What ever happened to him releasing the documentation to prove his points........oh yeah, once he knew that the majority would accept the lies of the "study", he then knew who to pander to. Still waiting on the release of the actual findings.....

3. Donald Trump: Donald was all about making Tic-Tok sell until he met with his big donor buddy and found out he had serious money in Tik-Tok so now their "OK" ?

The rubes are just being rubed again. If your big concern is the "chinese" having access to your "data".....THEY ALREADY have that. My god, do you not KNOW that american companies have been selling your data to the highest bidder for 25 years now ?

 

I can't help you with your reading comprehension issues. I don't support granting Bribed Joe this power over US Social Media.

 

What power ?

 

Nothing new, Trump always supported anyone who supports him:

https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...ons-to-trump-organization-tied-project-2018-5

 

You don't seem to understand the discussion you are involved in.

Banning TikTok Would Give the Feds Way Too Much Power

"It's a disturbing gift of unprecedented authority to President Biden and the Surveillance State," said Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.).'

https://reason.com/2024/03/14/tiktok-china-ban-federal-government-libertarians/

'TikTok might be in trouble: The U.S. House of Representatives approved legislation that would force ByteDance, the popular social media app's Chinese parent company, to sell it to a U.S.-based firm, or else it will be banned in the United States. The vote was 352–65. President Joe Biden has indicated that he will sign the legislation, so now it's just a matter of whether the Senate chooses to act.'

Read through the whole thing, if you like. This is a legislative grant of power to Bribed Joe and I'm completely lost on why 352 House members, including many Republicans, thought this was a good idea.

'The bill was also opposed by some of the most conservative members of the House (as well as some of the furthest left): Rep. Thomas Massie (R–Ky.), Rep. Matt Gaetz (R–Fla.), and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R–Ga.), but also Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.), Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D–Mass.), Rep. Ro Khanna (D–Calif.), and so on.'

 

AGAIN, you dont know what your responding to. WHAT POWER does Joe have to ban tiktok, if he is just approving a bill tat congress sent him. Hes not doing this on his own. You may want to go back and read my history on the subject

 

The Power that will granted to him by Congress, if the Senate passes it and Bribed Joe signs it into law.

The power granted to him by Congress, if the Senate also passes the bill and Bribed Joe signs it into law.

No one said otherwise.

 

good god man...."Bribed Joe" ?

You may want to read back on my posts. I don't like the US banning ANY website. Its uber hypocritical to scream "FREEEEEEE. SPEEEEECCCHHHH" and then ban that very thing.

You may want to go back to the actual bill that the REPUBLICANS created and sent to Joes Desk. Why aren't you going after the republicans in congress for sending this bill to him ?

 

Yes, foreign Oligarchs have poured $Millions into the bank accounts of 9 different Bidens, including even some of the grandchildren, and all for no discernable legal goods, products, or services. Are there foreign Oligarchs pouring $millions into your children's or grandchildren's accounts? Yeah, me neither, in fact, for no one else's children or grandchildren, besides Bribed Joe.

I am. I think they're idiots. I can't for the life of me understand why so many Republicans and Democrats would want to grant this power to Bribed Joe.

 

Cool story, Bro'
On the other hand, three of the most important political and media figures on the right. Biggest, Most Mindless Idiots on the Planet oppose the legislation. They are Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, and former President Donald Trump. Each has railed against the federal government's misguided efforts to police social media

 

Their is literally NO PROOF of that, or they would be in jail.

The right just makes $h1t up and thinks everyone will swallow it. If there was proof the Republicans would have impeached him. Every time their is an accusation and proof on Trump, the right somehow finds the EXACT same issue with Biden. It started with "Joe Biden is on the take", and then when they showed a couple of years where his incomes increased they screamed "GOT YA NOW JOE", and then when it was pointed out that those years were from Jills books, they all started making up that his family was receiving all the money and somehow funneling it to Joe. Then the laughable "Biden crime family" bs started right after Trumps family was literally adjudicated for stealing from their "charity". If the right had the proof they would actually show it. But you know how we all know they dont have the proof ? They have'nt charged him or impeached him, because 1. They know they have nothing...and 2. The lie is more valuable in the public sphere than the truth is on court.