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And your point in saying this to me negates what I wrote above how? I wrote, "And now Biden is doing it. It's not cool no matter who does it. It needs to stop because all the name-calling is divisive."

Do you not understand what I wrote?

 

I'm convinced that some are only here to divide us. They say they want unity, but do they really?

 

I have my doubts.

 

YEs, I understand. Apologies, I wasn’t directly addressing you. It made sense in my head when I wrote that. I’m sick with fever, seriously. I meant generically that cheering for Trump to insult the enemy only made the enemy up the rhetoric. The oneupmanship style of politics is destroying us.

 

Apology accepted. Feel better soon.
I hope you don't have the flu. It's really bad here in CA. We are getting our flu shots on Tuesday.

 

My intellectual curiosity compels me to try and understand both sides of the argument, and try to see beyond the hyperbole. Moderate voices who try to present without all the exaggeration get drowned out.

 

Yes, conservatives want Unity, They will gladly unify with anyone agreeing with them totally and completely while repudiating their own programs entirely.

 

Thanks. I’ve been sick on and off for over a month. Back to doctor tomorrow, as there’s something more going on, here.

 

BS, you also forget that Trump went out of his way to attack anyone that disagreed with him, let alone made fun of him. Trump did it to himself.

 

I'm still shaking my head over that one, and I am pro-choice.

 

Another who appears not to be able to read a post correctly.

 

Yeah, the Democrats were such bullies.

 

He's not only a malignant narcissist but a pathological liar.
He shouldn't have gotten 40 years in public office, nor should he been qualified to run in 2020.

This just shows how easily the electorate can be tricked. It could also be because some in his state willingly voted for him because they put their own politics before the good of the country. If people actually vetted him, they would see his stories he told through the years didn't add up.

 

It's easy to prove they are bullies if one is not wearing blinders. They constantly partake in projection.

 

My husband and I had this exact discussion last night. Here's some background: We are GOP voters who in the past have sometimes voted for what would be termed "blue dog" Democrats. But since those don't exist anymore (excepting maybe Joe Manchin, and we don't live in W.VA), and with today's polarization, we have had to follow suit. We vote based mainly on economic policy, and have issues with the vast majority of Democrat policy. We were never fans of the "moral majority" or the far right of the GOP and consider social issues such as abortion, gay marriage, etc WAY down on the food chain of importance. We support the free exchange of ideas and are bothered by any kind of censorship and detest cancel culture and wokeness. We miss having legislators who understood that you work together to achieve the possible, not the perfect, and that compromise is not a dirty word. We think the GOP has often squandered their time in legislative majority, but find that doing nothing is preferable to moving in what we consider the wrong direction.

In 2016 we did not vote for Trump in the primaries. We voted for Kasich, not because we agreed with every one of his positions, but because we remembered he was instrumental in producing the balanced budgets of the 1990s and in our opinion was running his state well as governor and had a demonstrated record of being a reasonable politician who leaned right but could work with the other side. When Trump won we supported him as the GOP nominee because even though he was abrasive personally, he supported policies we agreed with. Voting for Hillary Clinton was never an option. When he was elected, we felt he did a good job as President, we were happy with the direction of the country, the economy, etc. Didn't like a lot of the distracting things he said, but also felt the level of opposition attacks on him was on overdrive before he took office and continued to escalate and we basically tuned all of that out. We didn't blame him for Covid, and voted for him again in 2020 because we felt he was still the better choice policy wise, and frankly, found Biden a disappointing candidate. At this point, simply based upon party platforms, I do not think we could ever vote for a Democrat for national office again.

We were thoroughly disgusted by Trump's behavior after the 2020 election and find all the conspiracy theories silly and annoying. We thought January 6th was horrible and a riot at the Capitol and that calling it an "insurrection" is a stretch. We thoroughly disagree with Biden's policies and the direction the Democrats have taken the country policy-wise since he was elected.

In our discussion last night, my husband and I agreed that Trump is hurting the GOP with his support of some fringe candidates and attacks on other Republicans such as Desantis and Youngkin. We hope he doesn't run again but think he probably will. We both feel that Desantis is a much better candidate based upon his track record in Florida, support of GOP policies we like, standing up for what he believes in without behaving like a petulant child and his youth and vigor compared to Trump or Biden. So here's your public admission: We would vote for Desantis in a 2024 GOP primary, no doubt. But if Trump were again the nominee, we'd vote for him again over Biden or over any Democrat I can think of. Because it's about policy. Biden proved that, in spades. He was viewed as and portrayed himself as a uniter, someone who wanted to work across the aisle, a non-radical type of Democrat. That changed immediately upon election. At this point, our continued vote for whomever is the GOP candidate is just as much a repudiation of Democrat policy and agenda as support for the GOP.

 

I only deleted some of your post for brevity, but I agree with almost everything you said. Around here, we think he’s so angered that he’s actively working to help the dems. He just called Mitch’s wife Coco Chow.

 

Ooooh

The wind has changed. The tide has turned. The knives are coming out.

I don’t recall seeing this much criticism of dirty donny on this forum from his fans before the election.

 

Thanks. I know it was a long post. I was trying to explain to the person I responded to where we and IMO a lot of GOP voters are coming from. Just as I know not all Dems are radical social activists, not all GOP are election deniers or radical Trump fans. I think there are a lot of what I consider NORMAL people without extreme agendas on both sides of the aisle who would love to see some common sense return to governing our nation. Unfortunately, the extreme primaries and polarization are only prolonging the drought.

 

Agreed. The moderates have lost. I say one thing not negative about Trump and I get called a Republican. Say something against DeSantis, I’m a loon for the left. It’s exhausting.

 

Maybe you could try less stereotyping? Not so. I've always criticized, and I have read many who supported and still support Trump, give him his licks for his abrupt bed side manner but I don't recall him ever going after the electorate like Democrats, Hillary, Biden and Obama have done.

I don't like agitating done by any president when they go after the electorate, pretending they are something they are not.
YMMV

 

Conversely, if you say anything positive about Trump, you get labeled an election denier or even worse.

 

Oh, I didn’t even say something positive. I just said I’d like people to talk about him less. That’s what put me in Trump’s camp. Lol.

 

That's why there was this big red wave that R's thought was going to happen.

Puleeze.

 

When the tears clear. Post those proofs you claim are so easy.