Trump or Biden?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by yangforward, Apr 2, 2024.

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Would you vote for Trump or Biden ? (and if possible give a reason)

  1. Trump

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  2. Biden

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  3. Other Candidate

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  1. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    So now you're changing the subject.

    The point is you can dish it out but you just can't take it. 8) :bye:
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I comment on your fake claims about Trump. He has never been convicted of treason so calling him a "traitor" is a lie.
     
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    Only to you. WE (many hardworking American's) had our eye's open when HIS insurrectionists attacked our Capitol ... AT ... his bequest.

    treason
    noun
    trea·son ˈtrē-zᵊn
    1: the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance

    BUT!!!! You don't have to be "convicted of treason" to be a traitor. An "attorney" would know that. 8)

    traitor
    noun
    trai·tor ˈtrā-tər
    1: one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty

    When you graduate law school let us know. :shock:
     
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  4. JohnHamilton

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    Point #1 has some merit. The rest are either example of bloated government spending or pandering to extreme groups that have divided the country.

    Biden is the worse president ever. His mind is too far gone to be able to sell his programs, and he abuses his office to ram them down our collective throats.

    My neighbor’s dog would be a better president than Biden. At least he knows when to leave people alone, and has enough grey matter to communicate in his own language. Biden has neither.
     
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    I continue to think the DNC will replace Biden as nominee because failing to do that would allow Trump to win. If they don't then they think keeping a tractable old man they can manipulate is worth the risk. Political power is addictive to some people. The only reason to vote for Biden is to feed one's partisanship. There is no logical reason for a person wanting more of the same. Every reason would be illogical.
     
  6. ECA

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    What specifically did Biden do to cause the prices of those products to increase?
     
  7. fmw

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    A desire to overthrow the government is an invention and you know it. He wanted to delay confirmation of the election to allow for investigation of voter fraud in the hope of staying in power. Questioning election results is part of our system and very common. He didn't send anyone to a riot. He didn't even support it. He behaved badly. The rioters behaved badly. When the election was confirmed he left. That isn't treason. Pure invention not supported by your dictionary definitions.
     
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    Nothing, What government did was to reduce the value of the dollar by profligate spending and expansion of the money supply. Prices vary according to the concept of supply and demand. By reducing the value of the dollar one has to spend more of them in order to buy anything. It looks like increased prices but it really isn't.

    The dollar has lost more than 90% of its value over my lifetime. That is the boogey man. It is all on government.
     
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    So then govts in every other country that saw inflation on goods and services also happened to reduce the value of their “dollar” by profligate spending and expansion of the money supply? Wow…what a crazy coincident eh?
     
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    Anyone who takes campaign talking points for fact will come out 'puzzled' because it doesn't line up with reality.

    We need someone other than the lying whore-chaser, or the old guy.

    Trump promises to "help" people? What did Reagan say about people who say "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you"?

    He said "RUN"!!

    I think voting for 'the lesser evil' is a cop out.
     
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    1) "If you are better off today than you were 4 years ago, you're probably an illegal alien". So, nation rapists (people penetrating our borders without consent) for Biden!
    2) Child rapists for Biden. He champions the so called, "Trans Equality Act" which has already passed Pelosi's House. With Dems having a majority in the Senate and the POTUS, dunno why it isn't law yet but how horrifying for normal people. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5 The Act demands equality for people regardless of sexual orientation. "This bill prohibits discrimination based on sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity in areas including public accommodations and facilities, education, federal funding, employment, housing, credit, and the jury system." And they want being a would be child rapist an orientation, "MAPs", "minor attracted persons". So, you won't be able to bar "MAPs" from being scout masters, showering in your daughters communal showers and more.

    Course they may tell us we're worrying for nothing about the Act, it will mean no such things. From the people that are scandalized to find that when SCOTUS reviewed Roe v. Wade and its reliance upon the 4th's prohibition of warrant-less search and seizure and found it had nothing to do with abortion, I'm not reassured.

    3) War mongers. Can you imagine the amount of felony tax evasion, graft, kick backs, money laundering these guys get to do when they get the US into wars that have nothing to do with us? And then $80 billion in weapons left in Afghanistan? Wonder what kinda kick backs resulted from that.

    I could go on.
     
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    I'd prefer Cthulhu over that jabbering potato the DNC criminal syndicate managed to install.
     
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    Trump never was a "small gov't" republican, I can't believe more people don't grasp that. My support for him hinges more on the fact that global collectivist scum loathes him so much.
     
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    Polls? Polls mean nothing at the ballot box.

    American can say whatever they want when media call them , but when they go to vote , they have been voting for DEMS .

    Democrats won 8 consecutive years – 20017,2018,2019,2020,2021,2022,2023. And during these time GOP/Trump tried everything to highlight the immigration/border issue. But the result is very simple. Majority American don’t vote on immigration.
     
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    and here is rest of 2020 under Trump

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    Okay, you are an open borders voter. I understand. As a Democrat you need them here and get them on welfare to buy their votes. I think odds are in you favor that you will get what you want. Once it’s in place, we shall see how you like it.
     
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    At least you understand the reality.

    DEMS/Liberty are winning election after election and by 2032 GOP will not win another national election.

    Regarding if we like it or not, it is always nice to get advice from losing side. you just have to wonder, if they are so smart and “ know what is best” why are they keep losing.
     
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    Is the winner always in the right? I'm sure that the slaves prior to 1865 were not so thrilled with what their winning masters could do with them. How about the period from 1939 to 1942 which was "Springtime for Hitler" as Mel Brooks called that time in his famous song. Hitler certainly was a winner at that time, but was he right? How about bin Laden? He had great day on 9-11.

    Are you so sure that you are right that you think you should run everything? You have control of the education system, which gives you are great edge at the ballot box. You have voter fraud and ballet harvesting down to science. Those things make your side "winners." I guess you think your side has all of the answers. There seems to be little room for the private sector in your model because government is all wise and all knowing. Government "knows" what's right for the little people, even when the people who run the government are getting rich from it. I guess that's the price we have to pay when there is a class of people who are "winners" with all of the answers to every problem.
     
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    you sure took up a lot of space for mostly spam that had nothing to do with Trump. The Covid nonsense was hardly Trump's fault and when he did something to stop flights from China, the yapping wokers called him a racist. The Floyd nonsense was purely a state issue-once again, the woke anarchists caused most of the problems.
     
  20. Endeavor

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    If I summarize your paragraph it boils down to Aesop story of “ Fox and sour grapes”.

    In America, conservatism is a dying ideology. Majority American reject conservatism.

    If conservatism is a good idea, then convince the majority of Americans. So far conservatism failed to convince majority Americans. Past 40 years majority American voted against conservatism.
     
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    yeah the losers tend to outbreed the winners. the dems are importing millions of future dem voters in the form of anchor babies. Tell me what causes people to want that
     
  22. Endeavor

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    Spam ?

    Do you deny that in 2020 the country shut down and unemployment rose over 6%?

    Do you deny that in USA hospitals were full and sick people had to go to tent for treatment?

    Do you deny, riot broke out all over USA in summer of USA?

    And do you deny while all these things were happening , Trump was POTUS?
     
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    democrats have done a good job in weakening America and turning lots of average people into dependent children who want others to take care of them. that might satisfy people whose main goals are opposing the religious angle of some of the GOP-ie those who see abortion, gender confusion and the alphabet agenda as their prime desires. It also satisfies those who are hungry for power over the legions of dependent perpetual children. but it is going to ruin the nation and demote the USA to another effete nanny state
     
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    I deny that was Trump's fault
    the riots were caused by YOUR SIDE

    I dont remember Israelis being massacred under Trump
    I don't remember hundreds of thousands of civilians being killed in Russia and Ukraine
    I don't remember a major bridge collapsing under Trump
     
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    Well the loser is not outbreeding this time.

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