Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries as prez

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  1. conservaliberal

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    In "legalese" terms, you're right! Oh, hell, Hunter himself made it pretty clear that Daddy was "Big Guy" in a whole series of influence-peddling rackets around the world, but the legal "Mt. Everest" that Republicans have to climb is in finding evidence that will stand up in Congress (for impeachment), and/or for other actions that would be undertaken in an American court of law. The "legalese" is all that matters, so, advantage goes to Joe Biden!

    It gets even worse for Republicans, because even though the alleged influence-peddling was handled in a rather stupid and careless way, "Big Guy" was given a modicum of 'plausible deniability' -- and -- as far as "impeachment" is concerned, Repubs must prove "high crimes and misdemeanors" committed while Joe is/was a sitting president. That means that all the influence-peddling and corruption crap he's supposed to been involved in (one way or another) as VICE-president doesn't matter! :eekeyes: ..Republicans can base impeachment charges only on events from January 20, 2021 onward....

    Oh, and then, even if by some miracle Republicans were actually able to get Joe impeached in the House, the whole "removal from office" thing would die a very quick death in the Democrat-controlled Senate, no matter what kind of evidence the Republicans could provide....
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes there is hard evidence the family was engaged in illegal activity which he helped facilitate and profitted from it even though that is not a requirement under the federal bribery laws. The House JUST RECENTLY started their formal inquiry so to claim Biden and his family innocent because the Reps haven't filed their final report is utter hogwash.
     
  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Really.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Okay, hot shot, what is your evidence that Joe was trying to protect his son by getting Shokin fired? The evidence will have to show that Shokin was investigating Burisma corruption and that corruption implicated Hunter.

    I'll be waiting. And, just a hint, it had better be something other than Shokin's word for it.
     
  5. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    These 'lies' as you call them are trivial nitpicks. When Joe Said he was at 9/11 'the next day', though technically it was 9 days later he visited, note that on the 9th day it looked EXACTLY as it did on 9/12, which IS the salient point, and this is the kind of making hay out of straw you are doing out of HATRED for joe Biden, but compared Trump, who has shaken confidence in American Democracy to some 74 million people, Biden is as choir boy in comparison.
    All trivial pursuits, all presidents hype.

    Clearly, we get it, you HATE Joe Biden, it oozes out of every pore in your body.
     
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  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nothing Comer and his clowns have produced implicates Joe Biden.


    Nothing. Don't believe me, put something up and I will explain it to you. I've looked at all of it.


    Not knowing the nature of Hunter's business does not implicate Joe Biden.

    Do we know the nature of the business of every 'consultant' in the land? No. Are they guilty of something? There is no way to draw such a conclusion. Same goes for Hunter.
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    No evidence.

    Don't believe me? Post it and is explain it to you.
     
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    There is not the slightest thing wrong, let alone unlawful, for a president or his companies (or for that matter a congressperson and their companies, or a judge and his companies) to receive payments for services from a foreign entity. The question of the Bidens is not whether they received payments from foreign entities, it is whether they were compensated for bona fide services. Whether Trump's or Bidens' payments look bad is just a question of political whore-mongers.
     
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    In spite of all your dancing around. Biden is a liar. He lies frequently, sometimes for no good reason.
     
  10. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    We get it, you hate Biden.

    Now bother someone else with your non substantive tripe.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He lies a lot. Everyone seems to believe it except you.
     
  12. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Everyone? you mean right wing partisans.

    He isn't the problem, Trump is.

    Biden's fibs are trivial and hurt nothing.

    Biden's deeds are rebuilding America.

    Trump's lies destroys democracy.

    Trump's deeds create chaos.

    I focus on the real danger to America.

    Donald Trump

    That's what you call, 'substantive'.
     
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    They are not "fibs". They are lies.

    The definition of lying is saying something which is not true and knowing it is not true. Either he either knows his stories are not true or he does not know his stories are not true. If he knows they are not true, that is lying. If he does not know they are not true, he has severe dementia.
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

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    We get it, you hate Biden.

    Quit repeating your non substantive tripe.
     
  15. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is "we"?

    It is not complicated. Whether I hate him or not changes nothing. He lies a lot.
     
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    So trump gains NO benefit from his business's?
     
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    It's like people read something in English and translate it into an entirely different language.

    Why strive so hard to put words in other people's mouth?
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    OF ANY KIND. Capiche?

    Instance? There is a House Committee entire report about it, 156 pages long

    https://oversightdemocrats.house.go...files/2024-01-04.COA DEMS - Mazars Report.pdf

    AI quick summary:

    During his presidency, Donald Trump received various emoluments from foreign and domestic sources. Here are some key instances:

    Foreign Sources:

    • China: Trump's businesses received over $5.5 million from China. This included:
      • $5.57 million from the Chinese government and state-owned entities for spending at Trump properties.
      • $19,391 from an Embassy of China delegation for a stay at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.
      • $195,662 from the state-owned Hainan Airlines for charges at the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas.
      • Approximately $5.36 million in rent from the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China for office space in Trump Tower (Oversight Dems) (Yahoo).
    • Saudi Arabia and the UAE: Saudi Arabia paid over $615,422 to Trump-owned properties, including payments related to the Trump World Tower and Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. The UAE also made significant expenditures at Trump properties during diplomatic lobbying efforts (Oversight Dems).
    • Qatar: The Qatari government spent considerable amounts at Trump properties, including payments related to the Trump World Tower (Yahoo).
    Domestic Sources:

    • Daewoo, South Korea: Trump failed to report a $20 million loan from Daewoo, a South Korean company (Oversight Dems).
    These figures are based on partial documentation provided by Trump's former accounting firm, Mazars USA, under subpoena. However, further investigation was hampered when the new GOP majority in the House relieved Mazars of its obligation to continue providing documents (The New Republic) (JURISTnews).

    For more detailed information, you can refer to the original report by the House Oversight Committee: House Oversight Committee Report.

    trumpemoluments.jpg

     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    Please show us Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries as prez... you have no evidence...
     
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    Once again, Mr. Trump's businesses and Mr. Trump are SEPARATE ENTITIES. Capiche? I'm not reading 156 pages to try to prove YOUR point. Even your AI replacement brain FAILED to show where MR. TRUMP received one dollar, let alone $7 million, as your OP claims.

    To make your left-wing propaganda fantasy come true, you need to filter through those 156 pages and find $7 million worth of direct transfers to Mr. Trump HIMSELF. If you can do that, I will concede the point.

    :deadhorse:Thread's been DEAD since January... smh.
     
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    If you owned a chain of convenience stores, and the Mexican drug cartels regularly bought gasoline from one of them, are you now directly and illegally profiting from the drug trade? I don't expect a thoughtful answer from you, so no need to answer at all. It's a rhetorical question for the benefit of the thread.
     
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    Its not just about impropriety but the appearance of impropriety.
     
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    For renting out hotel rooms and golf fees etc all over the world Meanwhile hunter was paid for access to his father.
     
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    There isn't any. Accept of course with Biden. Dude this thread is just another attempt by Lee at muddying the water.
     
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    The emoluments clause doesn't care about appearances.
     

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