Trump received over $7 million from foreign countries as prez

Finally something that a Trump supporter and I can agree on! When Trump engaged in "truthful hyperbole," he was lying his ass off!

 

Conflict of interest was driving the post. I'll make sure I articulate more precisely in the future.

Noting that you haven't refuted that premise, the more salient 'truth' which you are clearly ignoring.

The simple fact is that his not divesting was wrong, and other presidents did divest. Carter had a farm and he divested it.

Trump is not the kind of man of gravitas, of integrity, that other presidents were ('cept Nixon and Agnew). That you defend him is telling.

He is paid by his companies, so there does exist the 'emoluments' issue. Your argument really is a 'technicality' which is sidestepping the more salient 'truth', and thus you are only paying lip service to 'truth'.

 

And this man was the only one who was corrupt. It is just one more reason of many why Biden is being investigated.

Last warning. Stop the personal attacks.

 

Correct. Makes you wonder why he would lie about something like that.

 

Only someone who hated the man would care about such a thing. His academic years were decades ago. Trump lies about everything, and all you do is complain about Biden.

 

Yet, in 6 years, not one piece of evidence has turned up to Weiss to give a criminal referral.
This is Benghazi, all over again. You guys don't ever get it, do you?

If you consider that an 'attack' you should stay off the internet.

 

Stop calling them misstatements. They were lies.

Shokin was investigating Burisma. Hunter considered him a threat.
WASHINGTON — Ukrainian prosecutor-general Viktor Shokin, who was fired after then-Vice President Joe Biden threatened to pull $1 billion in US aid, was “a threat” to natural gas company Burisma Holdings, which paid Hunter Biden up to $1 million per year, the first son’s former business partner Devon Archer confirmed in an interview released Friday.
ttps://nypost.com/2023/08/04/viktor-shokin-was-threat-to-burisma-says-hunter-biden-partner-devon-archer/

 

It is your continual insults that I am getting tired of.

 

He is our president. His lies seed distrust in everything he does.

 

Funny, you made no mention of 'conflict of interest' in your OP. If you'd have worded something like: "Trump's businesses took in $7M from foreign countries while he was president. That's a conflict of interest." we could discuss that. But, I never really got past the title, where you claim something that is, at best, plainly untrue.

Do you now concede that: No, Trump did NOT receive over $7 million from foreign countries. Because, based on the sources you use to support the OP, he didn't.

As to the 'emoluments' question, the lawsuit that alleged that in the Axios article you linked was dismissed. No emoluments there.

The purpose of the emoluments clause is, in short, to prevent the executive from being bought. So, in order to support your new 'emoluments' premise, you should try to show that A) The business in question was profitable, and B) The money taken in by Trump's businesses from foreign actors was transferred to him in such a way as to link the payment to the foreign actor, and C) That there was some expectation of Trump to take favorable action by the foreign actor, because he spent money at Trump's properties, and D) That the money spent was in excess of standard fees charged for services rendered.

Showing any of these would help support your 'emoluments' case, but showing all of them would be reasonable proof in my view. Of course, none of these would support the OP, because absent proof that "foreign countries" actually gave Trump "over $7 million", the OP is unsupportable.

We do agree that he should have divested. It's the right thing to do, if for no other reason than to avoid the kind of BS described in the OP. Though, he's already had the emoluments question thrown out of court for his campaign spending shenanigans, so I'm not sure he's too worried about it this time.

And, again, I do not defend Trump... I defend Truth. Your OP was not truthful, and so I engaged you about it. Also, I am not the topic of this thread, so your attempts to insult me is pointless.

 

The evidence mounts everyday and you are left with desperately bring up things long settle as if they make the Biden bribery and influence peddling go away.

 

The evidence mounts every day that Repubs are using baseless allegations of bribery against Joe Biden to cover up for factual material proving Trump benefited financially from foreign countries spending money at properties he owns while he was in office.

 

Your point was just addressed, please reread it.

Stop calling 'attacks' where they don't exist.

 

I listened to the entire video. That's not what the video says.

But, I do have this:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...r-transcript-testimony-takeaways/70528889007/
Archer said that includes having no reason to believe that then-Vice President Biden called for the termination of Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin for any reason other than his stated purpose of pursing the U.S.’s anti-corruption policy in Ukraine. Republicans have accused Joe Biden of calling for Shokin's removal in exchange for payments to protect Burisma, which was under investigation.

"I have no proof or thought that he fired him for that reason," Archer said.

So, once again, you are in error.

 

Reread what I posted in #207 above..

 

Read the quote from the NY Post in #207.

 

What insults would that be?

What, you want to be treated with kid gloves? Get off the internet.

Can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchin.

 

That's odd, I get the opposite vibes from Biden, but I do get those vibes from Trump.

With Trump, there is a valid reason to hold him in Contempt.

But, Joe, Joe's a good guy, and you just hate the man for no good reason.

 

there is no Archer quote in #207.

 

Just stop making the personal comments. It is not complicated. Do you really believe that those comments are intended as complements?

 

Trump is not president and I do not want him as president.

 

I just told you that I will make sure I articulate with more precision my threads, in the future.

The OP was truthful, what it didn't do right was get to the underlying issue. I'm correcting that deficidency now.

Where you are not being truthful is accusing me of lying.

 

Nowhere in the text does it say it is in the video.

 

Probably the same reason Trump did, only Biden never threatened to sue anyone if they revealed the truth about his academic performance

 

Well, no doubt republicans are going to shout 'bribery' and 'influence peddling' as long as they can, got to get votes, eh?

Unfortunately, what they don't have is evidence.