Trump says Cruz’s Canadian birth could be ‘very precarious’ for GOP

"Birthers" were a very large statistical percentage of Republicans. Legal issues don't matter in elections, only political issues matter, and this is proving very much a political issue against Cruz. Just the notion of his being born in Canada and keeping Canadian citizenship until 2014 will not sit well with many Republicans.

This is already hitting Cruz in the polls. Notably, a plus for Trump is that Democrats in Congress and the DNC so much do NOT want Cruz to be the candidate - both because they hate Cruz and because he is a tremendous debator without Trump's negative-factor baggage, Democrats are feeding the question of whether Cruz is eligible to be president, adding legitimacy to Trump's claims that Democrats will challenge Cruz's candidacy if Cruz is nominated.

The secondary new issue of an unreported loan and from evil banks/brokerage firms in his Senate campaign may add just enough of overall questions about Cruz that it tossed Iowa to Trump, when Iowa was Cruz's to win. If Cruz loses the first 2 primaries, both Democrats and Trump will declare Cruz is dead - which likely would move Carson, Rubio and the rest up in the polls. This appears to be narrowing to Trump versus one of the others.

If Carson pulls out and Cruz falls, those voters probably will tend more to go over to Trump than the others, but the strong anti-Trump sentiment is going to start narrowing to supporting a shorter list of other Republican candidates.

It does seem that Trump easily blows his opposition away one after another.

Sanders actually would likely be stronger against Trump than Hillary Clinton. Bringing out Chelsea seems desperate and is matched by Trump's son and daughter, both very articulate. Raging that Sanders is a socialist probably wouldn't work as raging that Obama is a radical who hangs out with old terroristics and radical anti-USA minister didn't work.

Bill Clinton is looking very worn and old, and Hillary Clinton isn't exactly a fast thinker. Trump also has gotten away with so many personal insults and absolute statements that he's becoming teflon to them, just like Biden became immune for attacks for his endless gaffs - its just who he is to people. Trump could go after the Clintons in ways other Republicans simply couldn't.

Bush's hope is that somehow it ends up being him versus Trump, and to make the argument that Democrats and the establishment made for McCain and Romney - that only a "moderate" (RINO) can win, which of course is exactly opposite from what has been happening. Actually, Trump is actually to the left of Bush, but because of his statements about immigrants Trump seems a far rightwinger.

At this point, Republicans should go with Trump. Since no other Democrats like Warren or Biden are coming along, Democrats would be wiser to go with Sanders than Clinton. Clinton is just too much the past, too much scandals, too much baggage and not good at impromptu speaking.

Trump versus Sanders would finally allow the two extreme ends of both political parties finally battle it out for king of the hill.

 

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/

 

No they took it from Vattel

Because NBC has never been decided on by the courts

If you are correct then congress can make anyone they choose an NBC which is total nonsense.

 

Cruz might have an easier time if others would flock to his defense

But he has made a practice of alienating other politicians
That won him populist cred by proving he is anti establishment
But there is not much reason for that establishment to come to his defense

 

An honest non corrupt person.... Who did not report his goldman loans that supported his run for office

 

long ago refuted that. vattel made no mention of NBC in his book. It was inserted 10 years AFTER the constitution was ratified.

wong kim ark which was cited in Ankeny v Daniels regarding Obama's NBC status.

of course I'm correct. That's why John Mccain was eligible, and it's why Ted Cruz is eligible.

 

But Birthers were virtually irrelevant in either of the elections.

But absolutely- Trump is very actively promoting the idea that Cruz 'less American' because he was born in Canada.

I think Trump is an idiot Birther- but no- I don't really think he is an idiot.

 

I can only hope the RNC does go with Trump. Months of every other RNC candidate attacking Trump, and Trump's own comments will be great fuel for the Democratic candidate.

Frankly I can go either way with Hilary or Bernie- both have their pluses and minuses- but I think Hilary would do better in a match up with Trump. I think with a Sanders/Trump election, more of the swing voters will go towards Trump- but with a Hilary/Trump election more swing voters will go towards Hilary.

The real question is turnout- if there was a Hilary/Trump election- would Sanders supporters show up to vote for Hilary? Would the mainstream Republicans turn up to vote for Trump?

I think the key negative for Trump however will be his huge negatives within the immigrant communities- latino Americans, asian Americans, muslim Americans- all feeling attacked by Trump.

I may have said this before- but I will say it again- I don't think Trump will be elected- HOWEVER- I am not particularly threatened by the idea of a Trump presidency- first of all, he is the most liberal, and least idealogical of all the GOP candidates, and while I think he would be a bad President- unlike what the GOP keeps telling us- the United States is stronger than any one President- we can survive a bad Trump presidency.

BUT- if he were elected- just as I always do when any President is elected- I would wish him success as President- a successful President is good for America.

 

Careful what you guys wish for. There is an odd dynamic brewing of Sanders fans who would vote for Trump. There are older Democrats such Reagan Democrats but these are the Baby Boomers of the old Reagan Democrats and they are moving to Trump with their golf carts, scooters, and walkers.

 

He may have ulterior self serving motives, but Trump is merely making a valid point of how the dims lie, and will use Cruz's birthplace as a distraction.

 

Trump is promoting this "birther" theme because it is becoming belatedly obvious to him that his lack of a real campaign organization is hurting him, and that contrary to his suppositions, the voters won't necessarily turn out because of his obnoxious night club act.

Cruz has been gaining steadily on Trump in Iowa, and is gaining in New Hampshire because he has a real ground game and a real campaign organization.

He also leaves nothing to chance, versus Trump's free rolling fake it approach.

It's far too late for Trump to build any sort of real campaign infrastructure in any of the early voting states.

His only real chance to to play catch up and hope he can prevail amongst working class Republicans in winner take all industrial states.

Cruz will have the solid south and most of the west.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/u...nd-game-seems-to-be-missing-a-coach.html?_r=0

 

I haven't seen it. I happen to know a fair number of ardent Sanders supporters- and there is almost no chance that any of them will vote Republican- for anyone. No more likely than disappointed Trump supporters are likely to vote for Clinton.

But I guess we will all find out in a few months.

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LOL- what a wonderfully Trumpian spin on how Trump has been front and center of the issue of Cruz's birth in Canada.

Trump brought up Cruz's birth in Canada long before any Democrats have- but last night he tried to blame it on Democrats- Trump is a bold liar- and his supporters love it.

 

I think the primaries are going to be fascinating to watch- Trump does seem to be missing a ground game- and in past elections organization has been key to get out the vote.

But I am not sure that applies to Trump- I suspect he will be getting voters who don't normally vote- much like Obama did- while the other RNC candidates will need the organization to get their supporters to the polls.

Right now I am really enjoying watching the RNC chew each other up.

 

Trump's Troll-fu is strong. He knows its not really an issue. Cruz and Trump are using their "competition" to suck all the remaining oxygen out of the contest.

Trump and/or Cruz will likely lead the party into the fall campaign against the Democrats. And whoever the GOP nominee is, has a 2 in 3 shot at being the next President of These United States!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/01/14/9ee5d700-bb0b-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html

 

https://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/excellent-article-on-natural-born-citizenship/

How anyone can rad this article and not come to the conclusion of what constitutes an NBC is beyond me.

 

Just read this from Jonah Goldberg, "While I am certainly open to theories about how Ted Cruz is the Manitoban Candidate, hiding in plain sight until he can impose the metric system on our children and make us all passive-aggressively polite, my hunch is that’s not the case."

Well I thought it was funny.

 

Loving a liar is by far more of a democrat trait!

 

In all fairness, it is not a Canadian birth certificate, but an Alberta one. In Canada, provinces are responsible for vital statistics. Regardless, it was not issued in the US and A. so even if it's not a legal problem for Mr Cruz, it is most certainly is a political problem. I wish the poor bastard well because I'm not a fan of different classes of citizenship.

 

Trump is neither liberal or conservative. Those words greatly matter to you, not him.

 

whether Cruz is a legit candidate or not is really a moot point. If he were to be the GOP nominee the Dems would immediately challenge his eligibility unless Congress could settle this just like they did with McCain. Senate could put all this to rest in a week if they so desired.

Senate Resolution 511 - Text of A resolution recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

 

Maybe we should elect a Syrian refugee/migrant to be president to prove that we are really nice people open to everyone anywhere in the world. We already elected a guy named Hussein - twice - who said the Islamic prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world, not the Declaration of Independence nor the Sermon on the Mound.

Afterall, it is most important that the USA prove itself to everyone else in the world - that we are super duper nice people, right?

I'd be really nice to elect a Canadian as USA president. Maybe someone from Egypt as VP.

 

"Cuban-Canadian Ted Cruz for President" has a nice ring to it, don't you think?

 

Lets make a law that anyone born in the world is a US natural born citizen . Some here seem to think congress has such a power.