Trump says Cruz’s Canadian birth could be ‘very precarious’ for GOP

Everything you have been posting has been nonsensical. We show you the facts- you deny them- or change the subject.

You refuse to actually debate- you just make claims and when they are proven to be false, you just claim victory and call every one else a 'nay sayer'.

Let me recap:
Cruz is eligible to be President
Anyone born in the United States is born a U.S. citizen, other than the children of diplomats.
This is confirmed by the 14th Amendment, Wong Kim Ark and Plyler v. Doe.

And those are the facts.

 

A citizen yes an NBC no. It doesnt say NBC. Congress can make anyone it wants a citizen however it does not have the power to make anyone at all an NBC. Its beyond its power.

 

Yes it does indeed implicitly say NBC-

Anyone born in the United States is born a U.S. citizen, other than the children of diplomats.
This is confirmed by the 14th Amendment, Wong Kim Ark and Plyler v. Doe.

There are two types of citizens per the Constitution- Natural born- and Naturalized- and anyone born in the United States is natural born

And those are the facts.

 

No doubt. The illegals should be deported, and their bosses thrown in prison.

 

More of the same. You also lost the argument about a dozen posts back.

 

I know Cruz is eligible to be president. He wasn't born in the US.

It's the rest you have wrong.

 

No, the constitution doesn't say that. Your definitions do not exist in the Constitution. You just want to extrapolate it.

 

Remember, Congress passed a law to legitimize the candidacy of John McCain, who was not born in the USA.

It is notable that Congress did NOT vote that ANYONE born outside the USA is eligible by defining John McCain to be president, did it?

But it is NOT just a legal issue. It also is a political issue. Many people believe that if someone isn't born in the USA they shouldn't be president. That means votes shifting from Republican to Democrat. So as a POLITICAL issue is legitimate for Trump and Paul (and other Republicans) to bring it up.

Trump has not said anything "illegal" to say, yet the media incessantly declares what he says means he can't win. Even if it legal for Cruz to become president, that issue also might mean that he can't win if he gets the nomination. That IS a legitimate issue for Republicans, isn't it?

No one wants to address the political aspect of the topic, just to instead pretend they are the Supreme Court, which has never ruled on this as a legality. A serial rapist on a non-parole life sentence also is eligible to be president if born in the USA. That doesn't mean his being a serial rapist isn't a political issue.

Cruz not being born in the USA and not renouncing Canadian citizenship until 2014 IS a POLITICAL issue, like it or not.

"Vote For Cuban-Canadian Ted Cruz for President" would be a good bumper sticker for Democrats to put on their vehicles, wouldn't it? A far number of people don't like foreigners and particularly Canadians and Cubans. Especially Republicans.

 

I recall that Congress passed a resolution not a law that McCain is eligible. I could be wrong I was wrong once, in the last millennium.

 

Agreed.

 

Well the difference between you and me is that you think that children born in the United States are not citizens- and meanwhile- as per the 14th Amendment, Wong Kim Ark, and Plyler v. Doe- those children are being issued United States passports.

Your opinion is worth less than the e-paper you wrote it on.

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You are correct- it was a non-binding 'sense of the Congress' resolution.

And as far as Cruz's place of birth being a political issue- of course it is.

That is why Trump keeps mentioning it- and flirting with Birthers.

 

Actually he is exactly right- the Constitution lists only two types of citizens.

Naturalized and Natural Born.

Anyone who has not been naturalized- and naturalization is defined by U.S. immigration law and requires actual naturalization papers.

Was Ted Cruz naturalized? If so when- where are his naturalization papers?

If not- he is a natural born citizen.

 

lol, I gave you 2 supreme court rulings showing you specifically how and why you are wrong.

lol, birthers

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NBC means a citizen at the time of birth.

demonstrably false.

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lol, of course it says that.

of course they do. please actually read the rulings provided. US v Wong Kim Ark and Plyler v Doe.

 

congress passed a non binding resolution that he was eligible. not a law

 

John McCain was on Morning Joe ( the official talking heads show for RINO's) and he mention that the resolution passed 100- 0 . Raphael Cruz 's primary law professor was on CNN last night and he laughed at Raphael 's twisting on his view of the Constitution. The Prof recalled that Raphael was a "strict constructionist" where "every word" mattered but when it come's to Raphael's situation of whether he is eligible of not Raphael uses post 18th century takes on the who is a NATURAL BORN Citizen

Raphael ( now Ted ) Cruz like things both ways just like most phonies do.

 

The Constitution does not define the situation such as Raphael Cruz's. The opinion of whether he is or is not a Natural Born Citizen is based on a few cases and interpretations of the Constitution and British Common Law. No folks NOT "NATURAL LAW". British Common Law was used to determine who was a British citizen . This was important for the Brits because of their wide ranging colonial land holding with multiple races and nationalities.


What I find hysterical is Raphael Cruz a strict "interpreter" of the Constitution who says every word should be viewed as it is written is now using post Constitution interpretations to support his claim for the throne.

I believe that Raphael is eligible to serve as POTUS from interpretations of the Constitution and cases from the 19th century. Still the always was, is, and shall always be as phony as a three dolor bill.

 

Raphael Edward Cruz Mr. America Not Born in the USA was a founding editor of the Harvard Latino Law Review. I just find that a bit ironic and funny..

 

It's funny to see you libs squirm over the possibility of Cruz being elected President!

 

do you birthers wear special glasses that completely distort reality for you?

 

Oh I don't doubt that Cruz might well be a phony.

As far as the 'strict constructionalist' view of NBC is concerned- other law professors disagree.

I think it is pretty clear that Cruz is a natural born citizen- but I do agree that his Canadian birth is an issue that will be used by his opponents- at the moment that is all Trump.

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It is funny to watch you RWNJ's make stuff up about liberals.

Meanwhile- Cruz is eligible- Trump is a Birther- and it is delicious to watch the GOP once again eating its own.

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Seriously? LOL.......

Absolutely nothing wrong with that.....other than it flies in the face of every Conservative who has ever whined "Latino" groups everywhere.

 

They are ? Why ? Would they prefer a liberal like Trump ?

 

Rafael Cruz did a few things as a Latino and/or Hispanic

He may now be ashamed of his LATINO - Hispanicness so maybe he needs to show how tough he is on immigrants and especially illegals. Since people perceive LATINOS to be the vast majority of illegals ( they well may be) he being of Hispanic origin needs to show they he "just ain't like them wetbacks".

 

Thats your definition not the founders.

Here is the only definition they agreed on

As for Kim Wong

You cant be an NBC by statute.

 

Of course it's the founders. They took it from English common law, which I've cited in Supreme Court rulings.

Minor specifically tells you they aren't addressing NBC. Lol

I quoted the ruling specifically refuting your nonsense.

Of course you can

 

Well, they should prefer an honest, non-corrupt person, no matter the affiliation. Hillary fails just like Barry!