Trump slams Puerto Rico

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  1. Labouroflove

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    It's you who made wild claims what they were not doing, but got nothing to back it up.
     
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    No I reported a fact that less than half of the PRNG reported for duty
     
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    In the end Puerto Rico is going to benefit greatly from this hurricane. Remember, I lived there for four years and I can tell you their infrastructure was falling apart. So fast forward to today and a cat 5 hurricane gives PR the huge enema it needed and everything held together with tape and paperclips is washed away requiring being rebuilt. Instead of using their own money to rebuild all that stuff, the federal government will probably end up covering a lot of it. In the end they scored.
     
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    Your source also said those people who did not show up were cops and firefighters etc.
    And you made wilde claims not all of those who did not show up had a good reason for not showing up.

    THAT, while it's absolutely obvious the US government is not sending enough troops to help out. Not enough, and very very late.
     
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    It said some are but not all of them

    Texas and Florida were able to mobilize their National Guard units
     
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    without any proof.
     
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    And neither do you.
     
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    In PR the whole island was wrecked (unlike Texas) and the National guard in PR were busy with their own families. How can you conceivably compare Texas and Puerto Rico.. or is it just that Trump thing about brown people who speak Spanish?
     
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    In PR the whole island was wrecked (unlike Texas) and the National guard in PR were busy with their own families. How can you conceivably compare Texas and Puerto Rico.. or is it just that Trump thing about brown people who speak Spanish?
     
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    I know they did not show up for duty in the PRNG

    Texas and Florida are red states that stepped up to do their duty and PR didn't
     
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    As if NG soldiers in Texas do not have families too?

    Because the PR's are not showing up for duty trump is sending more regualar military to help out

    But don't expect instant gratification when the devastation is as bad as you claim it is
     
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    ALL of Texas wasn't hit by their hurricane.
     
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    Practically all of Florida was and they reported for duty

    And Texas would too if needed
     
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    They vote in the primaries but can't actually vote in the general election because of our nonsensical electoral college. So they help decide who gets to be a candidate.
     
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    Florida may have been hit, but the devastation wasn't full on all of Florida, unlike PR.
    And as far as you know, they all reported for duty in PR.

    Its just that a lot of the national guard got double duties... like being part of the national guard, as well as being a firefighter. They can only report for 1 duty. And you dumbly and ignorantly claim they can report for both.
     
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    The same is true in Florida

    There are a few full time national guardsmen but most have other jobs
     
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    So what. You still are eager to forget that this is the reason why not all show up in PR.
     
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    How Puerto Rico Can Rebuild And Become The Hong Kong Of The West
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    "The establishment of an Economic Freedom Zone, would set off an explosion of growth..."

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    Taking inspiration from Hong Kong and Singapore, governance from a lean, honest, and efficient local government, combined with openness to international investment and trade, will allow Puerto Rico to capture business that would be regulated away in the States – if they were allowed to get off the ground at all.

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    With government taking a backseat, free markets would liberate the people of Puerto Rico, restoring dignity alongside material wealth. Allowing local government to make local decisions rather than being subject rules from Washington, D.C. would give control to those who know the island best. Favoring economic freedom to government regulation, resources would go to their highest valued use.

    Political Support
    This proposal would gather support from both sides of the aisle in Congress. To begin, there is a bipartisan desire to help our fellow citizens in Puerto Rico after the destruction of their economy and infrastructure. Democrats in Congress would rally around debt assumption as relief, while Republicans would be eager to tap the potential of free market reforms. Wrapped up as a hurricane recovery package, the timing is right.

    On the mainland, we value the freedom of federalism, which allows different states to have wildly different policies and experiences. Just as states are the laboratories of democracy, Puerto Rico is poised to be a laboratory of both democracy and economic vitality. As the federal government has increasingly encroached on areas that were once the province of the states, much of the policy in America has become homogenized. Reestablishing the primacy of federalism to allow Puerto Rico to pursue low-regulation, fast-growth policies would provide a small-scale proving ground for the county to relearn what made America so successful.

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    Puerto Rico Could Be the Hong Kong of the West
    Puerto Rico would become a magnet for investment with money pouring in from around the globe. As an Economic Freedom Zone, the local workforce would see a drastic rise in standard of living, while highly skilled and competitive human capital would expand economic potential. The unrestrained economic power of these reforms would bolster the political freedom of the island. Not only would Puerto Ricans be free from their current destitution, but they would get a taste of genuine political and economic freedom to truly engage with the world.

    Having an economic power center so close to our shores would be a boon to our economy and would make theirs the envy of the world. Tourism, technology, luxury, and more would redefine Puerto Rico.

    Puerto Rico is needlessly impoverished, and we have a unique opportunity to reverse course, improving the lives of its residents while also broadcasting the appeal of economic liberty to the world.

    By restoring power to its people and unleashing the unbridled force of free market entrepreneurial capitalism, Puerto Rico will become a beacon of freedom and prosperity unparalleled in the Western Hemisphere. The invisible hand is knocking at the door. All it will take is for the federal government to open the door and get out of the way.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-07/how-puerto-rico-can-rebuild-and-become-hong-kong-west

     
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    I don't know what the reason is and neither do you

    Some can be explained by also being police or firefighters but not all

    And who says the local authorities have priority over the territorial government?

    The police officers or firemen may still be AWOL from their NG units
     
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    As far as you know they all showed up as either policeman, firefighter, national guard or any other emergency duty themed profession. And you ripped on them as if 1000's of them just sat home doing nothing. You got ZERO proof of that. You just a false claim, and a horrible nasty one as well.

    That while you ignored experts claiming not enough of the army was present. That was said even the 3 star general in charge. A position he was giving 8 DAYS after the disaster. That's proves that the dotard was WAY and WAY to slow to help out PR. He was sitting on his thumb or playing golf!
     
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    I've seen this excuse many times. So I'm curious just what exactly were they so busy with 10-14 days after the storm? What were they so busy doing 24/7 that they couldn't be part of the recovery to get basic supplies to the people (including their families).
     
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    It was reported that less than half showed up for duty

    That is a fact
     
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    That source also explained that it's due to the FACT that they have dual jobs as police officers and fire fighters etc etc.
    You omitted that, so could falsely accuse them of sitting at home with zero proof.
     
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    Oh! Little things like digging out victims, getting supplies to families in need, helping the hospital when the power went out............

    Clearing roads so they can GET the supplies through

    Did you not consider that without power there is no fuel? So, how can they get the supplies out?
     
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