Trump to be indicted on Wednesday, report to Court next week

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  1. Alwayssa

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    It is not about slaves or slavery today. It is about history. Texas, the SBOE, the agency designed to approve and manage the curriculum in Texas public schools and to some extent private schools, want to change the word "slavery" to "involuntary relocation" when they teach about slavery in the United States. Florida is much worse. And when it comes to history, we don't teach it. We teach the myth of history, especially when it comes to the Civil War, American War of Independence, and so forth. I have found that today's modern conservatives are more afraid of history and other subjects than anything else.

    The "woke" really didn't start it. Yes, we had the issues of Civil War monuments to be removed, most of them were erected in the 1950s and 60s during the Civil Rights movements when MLK was alive, and that was the "southern conservative" response to that movement in order to keep segregation and the Jim Crow laws in place. I guess MLK was "woke" back then, right?
     
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    It is because he wants his historical myths not to be erased and thinks real history will do that.
     
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    It does not need to be investigated by the AG. Some 60 plus lawsuits in various states tried to do this, and all of them got shot down. Not a single one showed any creditble evidence. This is the perfect example of trying to investigate a crime when no crime of that magnitude occurred. Even the audits in Florida, four times, still had Biden winning, some by more than the official record, and you guys still won't believe it. Geez, forget the 2020 election and move on. It ain't good for you mentally if you guys continue with this obsession.
     
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    Democrats are not doing this case.
     
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    Yes, they absolutely are lol.
     
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    12 jurors of his peers are going to do this case, and their political affiliation is not going to be questioned as to whether they should serve or not. What will matter is if they can view the evidence presented and render a verdict. That is it. The jury questionnaire would be in tune as to determine if they have any preconceived notions about the case. And then you have the allowances in which both the prosecution and the defense can use to dismiss the juror without cause, usually three per side.
     
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    This entire case has already been demonstrated as led by democrat politically motivated hacks. It’s a genuine witch hunt. Nothing about it should be respected. The DA is as anti Trump radical as it gets.
     
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    No, it has not. Geez, what do you think this is, an episode of Law and Order here?

    Trump, for all intent and purposes, falsified documents. Trump, along with Cohen and others, attempted to make the hush money payments into a legal retainer for services. Trump knew this and went along with it. And then claimed it on some form for tax or administrative purposes. That is business fraud, more precisely documentation fraud.

    But Trump does this sort of thing. His Trump Tower is a perfect example. He has floors 1-12, then skips 13-40, and then has floors 41-53. His own penthouse is actually 11000 square feet, but Trump exaggerates and says it is 55,000 square feet and worth ten times more than what it is really worth while property tax records show it is worth $500k. This is not smart business or even "fudging the numbers" here. It is what Trump does and has always done since the 1980s.
     
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    Yes it has, it’s beyond question.

    no he didn’t. This was already addressed years ago. No new evidence has been found, nothings changed. It’s a political hack simply indicting a former president for the sake of poltical partisanship. He has made his hatred of Trump well known.

    Nothing about this should be respected. It’s a partisan witch hunt.
     
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    No it has not, there simply was not enough evidence to warrant the charges because both Cohen and Trump had a mutual defense, or joint defense strategy. That changed in 2019 or so. And Cohen, as part of his plea bargain with federal prosecutors, is fully cooperating and is showing all the goods he has on Trump, hence more evidence is now available and why the charges are now warranted.
     
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    Yes it has. Nothing changed whatsoever, the evidence didn’t exist and doesn’t now. This is a politically motivated DA who has made clear his intention has only ever been to get Trump. His hatred is beyond question.

    The “plea deal” as you put it is strictly coerced non sense.
     
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    A NY State DA.
    Have you read about the investigation?
     
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    There's already talk that if this thing goes to trial, he won't get a fair trial in NY. Maybe they should move it to another state like Texas. :)

    Let's face it, Bragg's maneuver is election interference.
     
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    You're wrong.
     
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    I’m objectively correct.
     
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    Clearly you haven’t. The political persecution here is astounding. Real banana republic stuff
     
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    Only if one believes in conspiracy theories.

    I don't.
     
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    It isn't good for you guys if you continue the misleading statements. There were not 60 lawsuits. All but 2 of them were dismissed for lack of standing. The other two were filed by the Trump campaign. One was dismissed and the other was a winner for Trump. You do not know how much fraud occurred and neither do I. Unlike you I admit that I don't know. Nobody knows. It has never been investigated. Stop with the obsession.
     
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    Neither do I. Can you explain why this is a conspiracy theory.
     
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    One verifies evidence by investigation. If the evidence is verified then no investigation is necessary. All the evidence is verifiable. None of it has been verified. You will get over it in time.
     
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    Particularly when it derails a political opponent.
     
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    No, if something is proven then there is no reason for an investigation. Think it through before responding.
     
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    About half were dismissed for lack of standing, which in legal terms, they could not bring the lawsuit to show the "evidence." Most of the other half of the lawsuits were dismissed because they showed no evidence. Even a few attorneys were sanctioned by the judge for bringing in frivolous lawsuits to waste the court's time because the attorney just regurgitated the same evidence while using different working. It is why Powell and others are now sanctioned and some are in the process of losing their law license in the process by the ABA, a conservative organization. But at the end of the day, there is no evidence and no judge has seen that evidence to either overturn the election or massive electoral fraud occurred in which turned the election into Biden's victory.
     
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    Nothing about it is conspiracy.
     
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