Trump to be indicted on Wednesday, report to Court next week

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Case in point. LMAO

    How come the dipshits in the GOP failed to prove a crime was committed when they investigated her for almost a decade?
     
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    Claiming there is evidence is a "normal" reaction from those that are involved with only one kind of media (right wing). There was NO evidence. It is NOT OK nor understandable that you reject the notion.
     
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    I hope so. With some hottie with big ass ( . )( . )
     
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    Do you believe it is illegal for someone to store classified documents on their personal server? Yes or no.
     
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    Trump himself paid for an investigation into fraud in the GA election.

    It came back finding no evidence of fraud.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/17/trump-research-voter-fraud-claims-debunked
     
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    You seem to know me so well. Don’t know why I even need to debate this. Go ahead and tell the world how I feel. Are you that obsessed with me? Do you look through my window at night? Can you tell everyone what posters I have on my garage walls? What flags I fly? Feel free to tell everyone how you seem to know it all about me.
     
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    Just checking in to see if Trump is in jail yet.
     
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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter what I or you believe. What matters is the rule of law. Do you believe someone should have arrested her because of your feeeeeeeeeeeelings about her?
     
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    Your posts speak for themselves bruh.
     
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    You're ignoring reality. Is having classified documents on a personal server a crime? You know it is. Your whining about feelings is just trying to pathetically change the subject since you know you painted yourself into a corner.
     
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    Apparently the rule of law and federal agencies don't agree with you or all the other trump loving reds that chanted lock her up for several years.

    But what do they know compared to trump loving reds with their feeeeeeeeeeelings and all.
     
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    Not sure why you keep whining about your feelings. But, I'm happy that you're no longer trying to make false equivalences. Congratulations on taking the first step towards having an honest, mature debate. Still a long way from getting there, but baby steps are important.
     
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    Interesting, his second testimony before the GJ.
    David Pecker @ The National Enquirer had already done a "catch & kill" for 150,000 to Karen McDougal.
    She claims a 6 month affair with Trump and Pecker bought the story in Aug 2016 then along came Stormy with her Mario Kart story,

    Former National Enquirer Publisher Testifies Again in Trump Inquiry
    "The grand jury investigating a hush-money case against the former president met again on Monday, but the timing of any potential indictment remained unclear"

    Snips:

    "Mr. Pecker was a key player in the hush-money episode. He and the tabloid’s top editor helped broker the deal between the porn star, Stormy Daniels, and Michael D. Cohen, Mr. Trump’s fixer at the time.'

    "A longtime ally of Mr. Trump, he agreed to keep an eye out for potentially damaging stories about Mr. Trump during the 2016 campaign.

    For a brief time in October 2016, Ms. Daniels appeared to have just that kind of story. Her agent and lawyer discussed the possibility of selling exclusive rights to her story of a sexual encounter with Mr. Trump to The National Enquirer, which would then promise to never publish it, a practice known as “catch and kill.”

    https://archive.is/N61CK
     
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    The infamous audio of Trump & Cohen discussing David Pecker's paying 150,000 for the rights to Karen McDougal's story.

     
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    An update on Pecker and why he may have been called back, he had testified in January.
    Possibilities make total sense.


    Snip;

    "One possibility is that prosecutors or grand jurors wanted to hear from him after having heard from Trump-aligned witness Robert Costello last week. Costello said he told the grand jury that Cohen acted on his own to make the payment, without Trump. It struck me as a somewhat strange point at the time, because even if it’s true, it doesn’t necessarily negate a charge of falsifying business records, if in fact that’s a charge prosecutors are seeking. That’s because such a charge wouldn’t have to hinge on the motive for making the payment but rather the cover-up. So Trump’s knowledge ahead of time is arguably beside the point, at least for that charge.

    Yet, to the extent that the grand jurors are assessing Costello’s credibility generally, they might want to hear from Pecker about whether he has additional testimony that directly contradicts Costello’s. One would imagine that Pecker’s direct knowledge of Trump’s role would have been brought before the grand jury the first time he testified. But it’s possible that Costello’s testimony raised specific questions that required recalling Pecker.

    Before voting on charges, grand jurors are able to ask questions that they didn’t think of when a certain witness was before them, so it’s also possible that Pecker’s appearance wasn’t directly related to Costello but rather was prompted by a question about how prosecutors seek to prove a certain charge, whether it’s a charge of falsifying business records or something else that required additional testimony from Pecker to understand.


    https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-whit...-pecker-trump-hush-money-grand-jury-rcna76895
     
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    Fake News!
     
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    I've yet to hear if Karen McDougal testified, or Stormy.

    Ryan Goodman
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    3. Note how AMI agreement refers to THE meeting to set up catch & kill election scheme was with: Pecker, Cohen, and "at least one other member of the campaign." Guess who was that other member of the campaign? Answer: DOJ sentencing memo: "Individual-1" (Donald Trump)


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    4. Pecker can give direct evidence about Trump. Here's another example of a direct communication between Pecker and Trump. Trump calls Pecker on June 27, 2016 "to make a direct plea for the publisher's help" to suppress Karen McDougal story. From the book, The Fixers.


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    Pecker was given some form of immunity when he testified a few years ago.


    Ryan Goodman
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    2. For those asking whether Pecker's testimony may help Trump, recall Pecker has already testified before the grand jury. We also have AMI's/Pecker's damaging admissions in the federal non-prosecution agreement.

    Bragg likely knows what he's getting, and it rebuts Costello.


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    Ari Melber goes over David Pecker's role in testifying in Michael Cohen's investigation under immunity and this Grand Jury.
    Neal Katyal chimes in and also said that Pecker's "Catch & Kill" became "Catch & Spill".

     
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    They didn’t fail, they objectively proved it. Charges aren’t declined because the elements weren’t there.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    They failed. Your feelings are meaningless.
     
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