Trump voters think Trump is more trustworthy than their religious leaders. What does this mean?

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  1. DEFinning

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    Your analogy is erroneous. Believing that people whom one is not aware of being investigated as part of some scandal, are people with integrity, is the natural benefit of the doubt that one gives-- unless one is convinced, without proof, that everyone in government, at least on one side of the aisle, is evil & depraved. But that would be paranoia.

    It does not mean that if one of those officials did have some scandal explode in the news, that Democrats would refuse to believe that they could be guilty. But Trump has numerous indictments, yet his supporters believe him-- even when he contradicts authorities, about "his" documents, for example. This is a whole other thing, than just believing that the person who has no allegations against him, is ethical.
     
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    While I'll agree, they could have offered more explanation, you are totally misreading what the pollsters do make clear:
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    The question is, do you feel what those different groups tell you, is true? The most reasonable way to assess this, would be to consider all the things, that each of those groups tells a person, and judge from those aggregates. So, 42% felt that they could believe all or most of whatever their religious leaders tell them. 56% of Trump supporters felt that conservative media figures can be trusted to be telling them the truth. 63% believe that their friends and family, know what they're talking about, and are honest with them, about it. And for 71%, Trump is essentially the supreme authority-- there is no one else they trust as much, to be telling them "the truth."

    You are drawing your analogy, about trust being dependent upon the situation, and context, from nowhere but your own mind.

    It's interesting to note that your own thinking-- in all your erroneous speculating, that people who'd answered that they felt what Trump tells them is true, were only saying that he wouldn't "tank the economy," and so forth-- actually matches the almost 30% of Republicans who back Trump, even though they don't believe that what he tells them, is necessarily true.
     
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    LOL-- they believe Trump's version of "truth" moreso than that of their spouse, their family, their friends, or anyone in authority. That ain't normal.
     
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    it is a word that is banned on this forum. Starts with a C ends with a T and has nothing to do with a woman at all.
     
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    I don't trust preachers anymore, or less than politicians.
     
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    It means when it comes to cult followers none worship anyone as they do Dear Leader.
     
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    If I were dumb enough to follow the likes of Jimmy Swaggart, I would probably think that Trump is more reliable also. Trump is fairly honest about his affairs. Jimmy buys sex, gets caught, comes on TV crying about it, is forgiven by some of his fans and then gets caught with his pants down again. If you continue to give money that “holy man” a bag of hammers is smarter than you.

    At least you know Trump is fairly honest about it. He’s frequently be caught grabbing butt and brags about it.

    “Now praise the Lord and pass the collection plate! I need a new limo. My one from last year doesn’t have super cruise control, and I have to keep up with TV evangelist Jones. And you know while you’re at, my mansion is getting pretty shabby.”
     
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    Honest about it? You give him credit for bragging about molesting women? Did you forget the molesting part? Was paying hush money just before the election to two women he had adulterous sexual affairs with being honest?
     
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    It tells me that statistics can be engineered to provide any desired outcome. I simply don't believe this. Anyone who believes a politician isn't thinking straight. People may have answered this way as a sort of protest. Sorry I view it as meaningless.
     
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    So.....when the facts do not comport with your views just reject them. I see that a lot from your side of the aisle.
     
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    Right, but trustworthyness in what context? I wouldnt trust any potus to tell me what the Bible means, and I wouldn't trust any pastor that I know to head the govt. Its a goofy comparison without additional context, context that respondents likely applied in their answering even if it wasn't implied in the asking.
     
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    Fake News. It's totally awesome and completely demolishes the claim being made.
    If 71% (Trump Voters) = Cult
    Then what are Dem Voters with 84% believing the Biden Administration is ethical when clearly they are a bunch of lying crooks?
    To folks who colluded in an insurrection to drive the elected president from office based on Crooked Hillary's lies, that the CIA told them, in advance, was just a bunch of Crooked Hillary generated lies? And then Biden runs a Crime Family that helps him sell his office to foreign Oligarchs, his Administration colludes Social Media to violate the rights of Americans who simply want to speak and be heard without unjust government interference, he unconstitutionally mandated a vaccine that doesn't stop infection or transmission and that can have serious side effects, he unconstitutionally mandated an eviction moratorium, he surrendered Afghanistan to terrorists and made theme the best armed terrorist army on earth, he unconstitutionally tried to write off student loans to buy votes, he lies every time he opens his mouth, if he hasn't fallen asleep, if 71% believing Trump = Cult, what does 84% viewing Biden as ethical equal. You are laying down smoke and in deep evasion because the point is devastating to this unanchored and rather foolish assertion.
    You think indicting him for perfectly lawful actions like asking for an election official's phone number strengthens your case? After the GA indictments the game's obvious. And it looks like this County Prosecutor engaged in a conspiracy with Bribed Biden's DOJ to obstruct and rig the election by trying to jail Biden's chief opponent that Biden's scared witless will wipe the floor with him in the election because Biden's approval has fallen by a 1/3rd since he last stood for election and Trump is polling much stronger against him than he did in the FBI/CIA rigged election of 2020.
    The National Archives weaponized a civil dispute into a criminal indictment and now they are obstructing the House Investigation into Biden's Crime Family where he sold the office of the Vice Presidency by refusing to provide unredacted emails for Bribed Biden's emails that he sent under a fake name in order to conceal his criminal collusion with Hunter Biden in the furtherance of his criminal international bribery operations.

    Biden's Criminal Bribery, the Illegal Coordination with the DOJ and these GA Prosecutors, it's got RICO written all over it.

    Only 44% of Republican voters trust Trump, which you claim makes them a "Cult" but 84% of Democrat voters trust the Biden Administration, which you claim makes them "not a Cult".

    You are just mad because my insightful comparison dug a hole for your claim, buried, backfilled it and parked the backhoe over it.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...ral_election_trump_vs_biden_vs_west-8249.html Trump +1. Within the margin of error, have you considered dropping another hundred phony indictments on Trump for perfectly legal actions? That might help you drag Bribed Joe through another rigged election.

    Of course Biden has leads in other polls, but, it's mostly within the margin of error, all these phony indictments and the race is still roughly tied, that must be frustrating for the folks trying to rig another election.
     
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    So what? 84% of Democrat voters think Biden's Administration is ethical, and he engaged in an attempted insurrection to drive Trump from office based on Hillary's Dossier, even though the CIA warned him, in advance, that this was just a pile of Hillary generated lies.
    Biden claims he's a Gold Star Dad and that he's just like the Maui victims who have a 100 dead, can't find another 850, who have lost homes, businesses, friends, children, grand children, because he once had a small kitchen fire.

    I'm frankly a little surprised that you haven't slinked off in embarrassment for trying to drive this malformed point, that if accepted is far more damning of the Democrat voter than the Republican voter. Only 44% of Republicans view Trump as ethical, but 84% of Democrats view the Biden Administration as ethical. Trust me, you should find this deeply humiliating.

    Well this is interesting, Mortgage interest rates hit a new high under Biden. “Just to put this in perspective, the last time interest rates were this high for mortgages the economy was in recession. Really. Look it up.”

    Bribed Biden claimed, two years ago, that inflation wouldn't be a problem and that his series of $Trillion boondoggles would make the lives of Americans better, not worse.

    Even though only 44% of the GOP trusts Trump, I assure you that WAY less than that trust Bribed Joe's unethical incompetent administration.
     
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    FAKE NEWS: 44% of Republicans trust Trump ahead of anyone else in the world.

    And for almost 20% more, while they don't trust him that much-- though they realize that he is a liar-- he is their top pick for President, and they would gladly vote the lying sack of treachery into office.

    On top of all that, it is not like the other 38% of Republicans, recognize Trump for the dangerous threat, he presents: they merely have a different top pick for their party's nominee-- in most cases, only because they don't think Trump can win. For much of this 38%, Trump is their second choice.
     
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    I think it means some folk require the services of highly skilled deprogrammers....:D
     
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    Dem's pick is Bribed Biden and he lies about everything. And you can pretend that Trump can't win, but he absolutely can. This race is within the margin of error, polling is much closer than it was in 2020. In 2020 the final polling average was Biden +7.2% and yet with a flip of just 44,000 votes in the key states, Trump would have won.

    This time polling is within in the margin of error. If Trump overperforms his polls by +3, like he did last time, he'll be sworn in on Jan 20.

    Trump's planning on a national early voting and ballot harvesting operation, where legal, in 2024. Dems trying to fix the election may find that they need a LOT more mules to rig this one than they did the last one. And the association of County Sheriffs, might be keeping a close eye out for the extended counting and the midnight ballot dumps like we saw in the rigged 2020 election. And no one with a brain will be as easily fooled by FBI/CIA lies this time around. Too much real obvious cheating was put into play in 2020 and second time around, folks just aren't as easily fooled, which might be a real problem for some folks that want the old tricks to work again, and drag Bribed Biden through yet another rigged election.

    So you can feign amazement over 44% of Republican voters trusting Trump, but it's with actual amazement that 84% of Democrat voters trust the Biden Administration, now, to explain that, cult like blindness does quite frankly come under consideration. Once again, we have folks claiming other folks are guilty of what they themselves are guilty of.
     
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    Total gobbledegook^^^^sheesh.
     
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    And yet time and again, Dems accuse others of what they themselves are guilty of. Take the RICO charges against Trump, when it's Biden who is actually the head of a Crime Family vacuuming up bribes from foreign Oligarchs.

    I'm still a little shocked that 84% of Dems think the Biden Administration is trustworthy when they are such obvious crooks. I have to be honest with you, seems a little cult-like. The GOP has a much more sensible skepticism of Trump with only 44% giving him high marks for integrity. Say what you want about the GOP but they do tend to be overall skeptical group.
     
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    What's amazing is your ironic and consistent commitment/references to fakes news....:thumbsup: :applause:
     
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    So you bought the whole "Trump was installed by Putin" fake news crap, and you are pointing the finger at others for cult like belief systems?

    It's shocking that 84% of Democrats view the thoroughly corrupt Biden Administration as "trustworthy", I'm surprised that you don't find that completely humiliating. Only 44% of the GOP have a similar view of Trump, and frankly even 44% is too high for Biden and 84% is positively ridiculous.

    The corruption of this Administration is not just obvious, it's in your face.
    THE BLATANCY IS THE POINT: Hunter Biden Special Counsel Appointment Is a Blatant Act of Corruption.

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    The head of the Biden Crime Family and his number one Bribe Mule.
     
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    How again is this gobbledegook related to the OP??? Knock yourself out because the c**t is in the sunlight.
     
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    It's not my job to teach you how to follow your own train of thought.
     
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    What are you talking about now re the topic?
     
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    Read the thread
     
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