Trump voters think Trump is more trustworthy than their religious leaders. What does this mean?

Some denominations in Christianity are led by the top down. Catholicism still does this, not to mention Espicipals, Lutherans, and Methodists. But Baptists and now the largest growing denomination, independent Evangelical Churches, are not top heavy, but at the layments and elders front lines who decide who is the pastor and what the church should concentrate on or its philosophy. these churches have both good news and bad news. the bad news is that many of these pastors are caught with porn, or accused of child molesting or sexual misconduct of a child. The church then tries to keep it quiet legally when those young people decide to talk some years later. Eventually, the truth comes out, and in the end, the church is hurt by the actions of a few, besides the perp. A prime example of this is Denton Bible Church in Denton, Texas with the youth pastor.

 

You still are misreading the poll, badly. It does not ask respondents to compare their trust in Trump, to anyone else. It asks, separately, about "religious leaders," "conservative media figures," "friends and family," and Trump. Trump had a greater percentage, say they trust him to tell them the truth, than any of the other groups. So, your claim that it was "just religious leaders," is FAKE NEWS. Anyone who reads the OP, knows this, for a fact-- your expected, doubled-down denial, notwithstanding.

Since you are also mis-associating your other stat-- about Dems believing that the leaders in Biden's administration have integrity-- with the poll about Trump supporters believing that Trump tells them "the truth," I guess it is pointless of me to expect any more, from you.

 

Here is what I am thinking. most if not all of us use and get information from the internet, social media, and other outlets such as podcasts and radio talk shows. Depending on where we get the news and other information, I am wondering if there is a direct link to the news, social media, podcasts, and radio talk shows that we, as a group listen to also conform to our opinions about who is trustworthy, especially for spouses, friends, president, members of congress, etc.

 

Fake News. You think you are a mind reader and you simply are not very good at it. If you are among the 84% who view Bribed Biden's administration as ethical, you clearly lack a healthy level of skepticism.

Please remind me are we supposed to taunt each other like that on this board?

He absolutely IS corrupt. You know it, I know it, the American People know it.

I&I/TIPP Poll : 56% Say Biden 'Likely' Took Bribes:

https://tippinsights.com/56-of-voters-agree-biden-likely-took-bribes-in-office-i-i-tipp-poll/

Only 27% consider it unlikely- that's a better than 2/1 difference. And this poll is two months old. As the House keeps dropping evidence, every two weeks or so, that 56% who realized that Bribed Joe is a lying crook who sold out the American People will grow, while dead-enders who seem to have a cult like belief in the integrity of the Biden Administration will continue to shrink. You think you're frustrated with trying to defend your already impossible position now, imagine a year from now.

Trump's mere 71% simply reflects their healthy skepticism of religious leaders. You do realize that Trump supports are MORE skeptical of Trump than Democrats are of the Bribed Biden Administration?

 

Fake News. I'm reading it perfectly. I can read the stitches on a fast ball, this lumbering attempt to discredit Trump voters attempted by someone who likely has a cult like devotion to Bribed Biden, isn't even a challenge.

I was shocked in comparing Trump voters to Democrats to find that 84% of Democrats trust the Bribed Biden Administration? How do you explain that? You do realized that is almost 20% higher than Trump voters trust of Trump?

 

No, you are not, as you'd said the poll only compared Trump to religious leaders, in respondents' belief that they were being told the truth-- you'd left out conservative media figures, and friends and family.

Secondly, you are equating the idea that Dems believe that a group of people (Biden's Administration's leaders) have integrity, with Trump supporters saying they trust that certain people are telling them the truth. First, most of these Biden officials, the respondents have probably never heard, giving them any information, for their to judge its truthfulness. But secondly, only 42% of Trump supporters, for example, said they trusted religious leaders to tell them the truth-- presumably, more than that, would say that religious leaders have integrity. Or, more than five-eighths (63%) would say that their friends and family are people of integrity. So, you are comparing apples and oranges.

 

No what I wrote is true.
"Again you're being duplicitous.You've left out quite a bit of what actually happened with regard to the "Kennedy contingent electors". Hawaii was running up against the deadline to certify their electors while, at the same time, they were involved in a recount of the presidential election which on the first count Nixon had won by a very slim margin, hence the recount. So that they would be ready the Democrats appointed 3 Kennedy "contingent" electors in case the recount went Kennedy's way. When the recount was completed Kennedy had won the State, the Hawaiian Govern then certified the "contingent" electors and sent their votes to DC to be counted by congress. That was after a State Judge affirmed the validity of the electors as legitimate because they had been accepted by the Governor. Nixon, being VP, accepted the Hawaiian electoral votes."

 

I see. Well, when it comes to Trump & Biden, I think it's a given, we would see-- I think it has already been basically noted-- corroboration between one's opinion of those politicians, and the news sources, one patronizes. Obviously, that connection would also apply to one's opinion of various newsmedia figures. But when it comes to friends and family, that is an interesting thing to consider.

My instantaneous reaction is that both liberals and conservatives, are going to trust that their friends and family are being honest with them. As to whether or not we think this is "the truth," would have more to do with an individual's knowledge of news, as compared to his friends & family. That is, I would think that those who don't feel these closely connected people can be trusted to tell them the truth, would be those who find their friends and family to be not as well informed, as themselves. Very generally, though, one might expect that most people, among such a group of intimates, would be at roughly similar degrees of keeping themselves educated, and often, through the same news sources.

If I consider longer, though, I wonder if the known differences between liberal and conservative minded individuals, would be something that would be reflected in how trustworthy we viewed information, coming from our friends and relatives. I don't know the answer to that, however, and wouldn't want to try to predict, how such a difference might manifest.

 

seems you don't... why would some on the right worships the golden cow

 

You're quite lost. Nothing in the OP refers to a golden cow.

 

even the title references the Golden Cow

 

Ohh look it's the resurgence of the infographic from the deleted thread. Is CBS still trying to convince people that that 53 = 71?

 

"Feel what they tell you is true." See again:

 

So they aren't thinking straight, or it was a sort of protest?

 

And yet, it is a word that is used quite a bit in newsprint regarding the Orange one. I find that ironic that the moderators here seem to think otherwise.

 

Specifically violence on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity?

 

Deliberately overgeneralized poll worded to find desired results. People only care about Trump's policies, so of course they answer the question in regards to policies, poll pretends it means overall. Context matters.

 

What do religious leaders have to do with Trump's policies?

 

I have no idea who is trustworthy. I just know Trump agitates the crap out of folks I dislike.....good enough......

 

Why couldn't you just say "cult?"

 

The only other president hated as much as Trump is Abraham Lincoln.....Democrats hated Lincoln also. Lincoln was a threat to take away slaves from democrats. It was an end to democrats power and wealth......hmmm.......things never change.

 

Nothing. That's the point. That's why the poll is junk.

 

The poll wasn't asking about Trump's policies.

 

Why do you think that it's not the majority?

 

Okay, but you didn't answer the question: What would your opinion be if hypothetically, only religious people were included in the 'religious leaders' data set, and also if hypothetically, say 90% of the 71% who trust Trump were religious?