Trump: We’re going to win this war on Christmas

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and I have no issue with Christmas decoration on public property, just leave out the religious propaganda, people can put that on their own properties
     
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    I repeat: I'm against using taxpayer-funded property to promote one religion over any other. It is a fairly standard position. Either have it as a space that anyone can use or do not use it to promote any religion at all. Just don't play favorites.

    Demographics do nothing to change that. You don't need government subsidies to practice your religion. That doesn't make you a victim.
     
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    The government we pay for with our taxes is not there to promote, or give aid and comfort to, the christian myth.
     
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    And there's your problem. To anti Christmas people it's about promoting a religion while to Christians it's about celebrating an event.
     
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    Post # 779
     
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    The a savior is born event is a myth. I'm not paying taxes in support of a myth.
     
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    To anyone capable of basic rational thought and observation, it is promoting a religion. It is promoting Christianity.
     
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    Do church bells promote religion in your world?
     
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    Now address the rest of my post you quoted:

    FoxHastings said:
    You are deliberately misunderstanding...(I hope it's that and not totally incapable of understanding)


    A nativity scene is RELIGIOUS.....if it is on PUBLIC property that is RELIGION using PUBLIC property.


    You: ""Using your standards tax payer dollars can't be used for anything that anyone disagrees with.""

    NOT if it's RELIGIOUS, (look up the word.)





    If that's what you got from the post of mine you quoted I can understand why you're so confused and think Christians own the United States :)
     
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    A bell is just a sound (and notably one from a CHURCH, not from a government building). If you are telling me that a nativity scene doesn't refer to the birth of Jesus, but just really any baby at all, give it a shot.
     
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    You'd think! But tell that to the snowflakes who think there's a war on Christmas because someone didn't use the Magic Words "Merry Christmas".
     
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    A RELIGIOUS event...
     
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    Celebration of the birth of Jesus is not promoting the religion it's just celebration. If you walk by and see it you are not forced to believe it.
     
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    Just a religious celebration of a belief in a religious figure. Fixed it for you.

    What tangent are you on now? It isn't a promotion of religion unless you are FORCING someone to believe? In what universe?
     
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    I am unaware of immigrants asking people to stop saying Merry Xmas.
     
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    The public spaces are not for Chistians only. It gets far to messy to put up every religious scene people would want. So saying NO to all is just a lot cleaner way of handling the issue.

    That isn't a war on Christmas, it's holding the constitution in higher accord.
     
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    Putting YOUR symbols OF YOUR religion on PUBLIC property is not only dishonest (there's that Christian sinning you KEEP AVOIDING) but it IS promoting your religion...


    Is your religion so weak that it has to advertise?
     
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    and that can be done with non religious Christmas decorations just fine
     
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    Actually he was never born or existed but regardless just say Merry Christmas, who really gives a ****. Peace on earth, good will towards men, who would argue with that. Why would one.
    And nothing is better than "A Charlie Brown Christmas" music.
     
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    not everyone celebrates Jesus on Christmas, that is just for Christians, so yes, that would be Christian propaganda - if you want to put a Jesus figure in your front yard, more power to you, but the government should not be promoting it
     
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    exactly, no one cares if people say merry Christmas, what they seem to have a issue with is people saying happy holidays on days other then Christmas
     
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    how would you feel about a muslims bells on the state house lawn with prayer bells ringing multiple times per day - would you say it's not religious advertisement, just a reminder to the entire town pray, you can ignore them if you don't believe

    keep religion and state separate....
     
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    Fake news. Show me anywhere somebody demanded that you can't say Merry Christmas.
     
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    Yes indeed that's the ploy. Push Christmas out by demanding every other religion also gets to have a display. There you have a perfect example of the war on Christmas. Thank you
     
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    Don't be such a drama queen.
    No one is demanding other religious scenes. There may be a few who wish to participate qnd the government would have to abide. If one is allowed all is allowed.
    Hardly a war on Christmas.
    Simple common sense based on the constitution.
     
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