Turkey and Israel friends again

Turkey | 27.10.2011

Israeli aid arrives in Turkey as quake toll rises


Turkey has said it needs 115,000 tents to shelter victims


After first refusing foreign help, Turkey has accepted a planeload of Israeli aid for victims of Sunday's earthquake. Many have been rescued but the death toll continues to rise.

An Israeli plane carrying prefabricated homes landed in Turkey's capital, Ankara, on Thursday, four days after Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan refused all foreign help for victims of Sunday's earthquake.

The five prefab homes will provide shelter for only a few of the thousands of people who have lost their homes in the cities of Van and Ercis - two of the hardest hit areas in the east of the country.

The homes are set to be transported to Van later on Thursday, along with tents and aid supplies from a number of other countries.

At least 534 people are now thought to have died in the magnitude 7.2 earthquake. Thousands more have been left homeless, and many are injured.

Erdogan was criticized earlier in the week for having insisted that Turkey could deal with the disaster on its own. On Tuesday, he reversed his government's decision.

In Ercis on Thursday, an 18-year-old man was recovered from the rubble by a military rescue team from Azerbaijan. His rescue came shortly after a 19-year-old man was saved earlier in the day. Both were taken to the hospital in brief moments of hope as rescues become less and less frequent.

More than 1,600 people were injured in the quake

'Snow is coming - it's a disaster'

"We slept under a piece of plastic erected on some wood boards we found," Fetih Zengin, an estate agent whose house in Ercis was damaged, told the Reuters news agency. "We have 10 children, they are getting sick. Everyone needs a tent, snow is coming. It's a disaster."

Weather conditions in Turkey's east are getting colder and wetter as winter approaches, and this has been increasing people's sense of desperation. As some line up for tents in the mud and cold rain, other have been seen attempting to profiteer and loot.

"People are taking 10 tents and selling them, it's a disgrace," Ergun Ozdem, forced to sleep in a municipal park without shelter from the rain, told Reuters. "My shoes are filled with water."

At a warehouse in Van, an unnamed witness said 100 people had looted Red Crescent aid trucks carrying food, blankets, carpets and clothes - all in the presence of police officers who appeared to be powerless.

"The real looter is the AK Party [the Justice and Development Party, led by Erdogan]," the man told Reuters. "The aid received in Van is handed to the families of public servants and police."

Local official have denied the allegations.

The search for survivors continues in Ercis but are hopes are fading High demand

Van was hit by a fresh magnitude 5.4 quake early on Thursday, but there were no immediate reports of further damage.

Munir Karaloglu, the governor of Van province, has called off the search operation in the city of Van. He said only six buildings were destroyed there in Sunday's quake.

But many people are scared to return to their homes - even those that were left undamaged.

"Because of this psychology and the aftershocks, they don't use their undamaged houses and instead they ask for a tent," said Karaloglu. "This is why we have a problem."

Karaloglu said about 20,000 tents have so far been distributed. He added that not all of the 600,000 people affected by the quake actually need the emergency shelters. The ruling AKP estimates Turkey needs 115,000 tents.

"We are short of tents, but honestly the aid delivery organization is also problematic," said Cahit Bozbay, Van's deputy mayor.

The Turkish Red Crescent has been blamed for a lack of organization in the disaster, but its resources have been stretched this year. It has provided refuge for Syrians fleeing unrest in their country, and it has also sent famine aid to Somalia.

Author: Zulfikar Abbany (AP, Reuters)
Editor: Martin Kuebler
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,15491679,00.html

So what is going on here? Have they kissed and made up?

 

Don't be so silly. No apology for murder on the high seas- no cooperation. Unless NATO sees fit to assassinate one of its own for the dirty neoZionist cause. I dare say it's been discussed.

 

The earthquake in Turkey is terrible news. But the Israeli aid and possible mending of relations between the two countries is good news. Turkey could very well be, earthquakes notwithstanding, on the brink of becoming a major world economic power following in the vision of Turkey's greatest hero, Mustafa Kemal. This could be huge. The world always benefits from strong trading partners so let's hope that Kemal's legacy always remains strong in Turkey.

Val

 

I agree Val. Good news in my view, despite the naysayers who thrive on bad news and hatred.

 

so if israel's funding is stopped by 'we the people' and then americans tear down the encroachment of israel into the west bank and put the bigots in tents, will the muslims call us friends again?


is there hope?

 

Why don't you tell me...

 

Sorry love
The fact Israel sent help is what people do when there is a major catastroph.
This will not change the political decision of the Turks to become leader of the middle east and not the begger of Europe.
Don't expect it to change anything in the political scene around here.

 

Aaaaw!

Why you raining on my parade here?

It is interesting that Turkey refused help from other countries only to accept aid from Israel. Is that normal even in a catastrophe?

BTW the leader of the middle east des not autmatically disqualify the begger of Europe.

 

Well as its turned out :

iAfter earthquake, Turkey has proven it can get by on its ownAmong the rubble, and despite the lasting trauma from the quake of 1999, Turkey showed in its predominantly civil response to this week's disaster that it learned its lessons.

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Says Ozgur Monkul, operations officer for the AKUT Search and Rescue Association, who arrived from Istanbul on the first night: "We came here with 16 trained teams, with 28 search dogs, and we rescued six survivors. I think we offered the right response. We have learned the lessons of 1999. Turkey can cope with an event of this size."

Monkul insists there was no political significance to the refusal to accept search-and-rescue personnel from Israel: "We went through joint training in Israel with the Arava rescue team," he relates, "and we have good relations with them. But the Israelis as well as the other foreigners aren't needed here."

Ankara has asked Israel and 30 other countries for portable structures to house the refugees. Rescue teams in Israel Defense Forces uniforms - no;

portable housing made in Israel - yes.

In light of the Israeli habit of patting itself on the shoulder every time it extends humanitarian aid, one can understand Erdogan.

READ MORE :

http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/week...-has-proven-it-can-get-by-on-its-own-1.392430


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IMO As long as Israel refuse to apologise for the Turkish citizens it killed , its unlikely relationships (friendship) can be restored as before.



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So they are accepting aid in the form of homes, good for them.

No reason to accept other kinds of aid if they don't need it

You can't be too proud in a time such as this.

 

European usage of American expressions never fails to rankle. Why don't you employ your own vernacular ? How about ' Why are you salting my sausage ' ?:

 

I agree, apeing the americans can be very annoying .

 

i agree

what bigot needs to take from the children and their unborn grandchildren, the tax dept of the US to buy arms?

ie... is the israelis 30billion grant from congress paid for by overburdened US debt?

Punks will take anything for their own needs. Real men/women dont!

kind of like how can a country be proud of existing, if it exists in its current form based on oppression and housing 1.6 million in a concentration camp (gaza)?

No pride there.............. just punks!

 

You want me to translate German expressions into English because....?

BTW we also have parades and it rains here too...

 

Bishadi stay focused my dear.

This thread is about how the Turks accepted housing that they needed.

Concentration camps is a different kettle of fish.

 

Dont get your knickers in a twist , old dear. : LOL

 

ps..... cool avitar "know thyself"


few know the meaning



The maxim, or aphorism, "Know Thyself" has had a variety of meanings attributed to it in literature. The Suda, a tenth century encyclopedia of Greek Knowledge, says: "the proverb is applied to those whose boasts exceed what they are,"[2] and that "know thyself" is a warning to pay no attention to the opinion of the multitude

to me that means; each are capable and should stand up when in understanding of the hypocracies within the OLD beliefs and complacent acceptances.


ie.... f.... being politically correct; do what is right when you know it!

 

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/168904.html

 

That's not true.


Azerbaijan had rescue workers on the ground within hours of the earthquake. HOURS!!!
Egypt offered help within hours and was thanked but Turkey said wait and see extent before sending aid. That was from the Turkish ambassador in Cairo.
Many rescue teams were there before the Israeli one.
Azerbaijan beat everyone.

 

You write "that is not true" but confirms what Liebe have written.
Egypt had offered help to rescue trapped people and Turkey has turned them down. Told them to wait. What for what ?
What are they waiting for ?
Are they waiting for all the trapped people to die, so they can bulldoze the whole thing away ?
When something like that happen, you need to act as fast as can be and get as many qualified people to help as you can.
They just left those trapped people to die in agony cause of internal politics and confusion.

 

Bishadi

Your gross bias and hater of the Israelis is clearly evident by your comparision to those living in Gaza with the horririfc conditions that existed in concentration camps in WW11:

'kind of like how can a country be proud of existing, if it exists in its current form based on oppression and housing 1.6 million in a concentration camp (gaza)?

How can any clear fair minded minded person, even with such a bigoted attitude as your, can compare the two situations and continue to exist, is beyond any reasonable person's comprehension. But I suppose if this hatred has been burnt into your brain from birth, then it's no surprise you are so bigoted and immersed in hate!

 

no one would want Israelis wandering around their country would they

Turkey accepted tents but as far as I could see no 'Israeli boots on the ground'

Turks would have had to be spending precious time chaperoning them so they didn't steal organs of victims.

See how the world see you!

 

Only arabs can think like that.....

The damage you do to yourselves with this way of thinking if far greater than what you hope to cause in Israel

 

They don't want Egyptians either.
This has nothing to do with Israel but with the inability, or even worse lack of interest of the Turks to help their own people.

 

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