Turns out that the Louisville Bank shooter was a gun control advocate

Ok, can YOU explain what his solution is?

And........your solution to the problem was.......do nothing.

You do not want to do anything to fix it, because any action is an inconvenience to you. Having to stop at the red lights on the way to the gun store is a "gun ban" to you. You just want to use the word "ban" at every turn, when it simply does not not apply.

You just said it would take 30 minutes. Vast majority of mental evaluations are NOT performed by psychiatric doctors. Everything is impossible to you, which makes you a classic pessimist, and the polar opposite of a "problem solver" mentality.

Wait for years........why do you have to make stuff up all the time?

Wanting to keep guns way from insane people does not make anyone anti-gun. That's an absurd claim. Your view represents the fringe, and vast majority of gun owners strongly disagree with such reckless stance. We have people dying left and right because that view and practically everyone (except you) want to do something about it. Why anyone would stand in the way defeats common sense.

 

The current situation enables them to have guns, and they have murdered thousands of people, and you bend over backwards to oppose every imaginable solution to that problem, so how can you deny you do not want the status quo?

Well, the floor is yours. If that is not what you want, then what do you want? What is your solution?

Every time you are asked that question, you turn around and accuse the person asking it of being anti-gun, and then you complain about being "attacked". That is not an answer, its a deflection and a weak one at that.

Nothing. I was responding to Turtledude, who has a habit of making stuff up and trying to pass it as fact.

Depression and such should not be an obstacle. Only "brain illness" such as schizophrenia and severe bi-polar disorders and such should be considered.

See above.

Yes. We have a mental health care problem. A big one. Half the people sleeping on the sidewalks have mental problems.

OK

Do we need a court order to deny your right to take your gun on a commercial airplane? if not, why not? How is that not a violation of your rights?

 

First, I'm currently in the hospital and using my phone but would be happy to respond more fully when I get home.

I haven't seen anyone write in favor of intentionally arming the insane but understand that psychological testing could be a subjective Trojan Horse to disarm those who are in no way dangerous.

As far as prevention goes, a determined, deranged killer will find a way to kill with any number of crude WMDs other than guns and guns are so plentiful that it may be impossible to keep the two apart except for stricter enforcement of existing laws.

Thanks,

 

The question was not about "intentionally arming", but whether or not the insane should have guns, and people do argue against any effort to prevent it, which results in the insane having guns, and in effect arms them.

Maybe, but usually they just buy a gun or two.

 

There are other Posts to which I must respond.

Please allow me to respond more fully when I get home.
Thanks,

 

have you ever answered my question about how long a delay your proposal would impose on a person seeking to buy a gun>

 

Does anyone else see the obvious problems with the suggestion that every time someone buys a gun at retail-or even the first time after this law is passed, they need a mental health evaluation?

 

Somehow, it seems like "solutions" always require concessions from 2nd Amendment supporters.

 

That is because the goal of the anti gun is not crime control but gun bans.

 

Yes, I have answered it about 10 times.

So, what was your solution again?

 

No one has suggested you have to do it every time. How many times does the same thing have to be repeated until you stop misrepresenting other peoples views?

Do you apply for new driver license every time you buy a new car? Do you take the test every time you buy one? Of course not.

So what was your solution to the problem again?

You claim you do not want the insane to own guns, and at the same time you bend over backwards to oppose any measure to prevent it, and you can't even see the problem with that stance. Its like seeing you son almost drown due to lack of swimming skills, and then oppose any attempt to teach him how to swim.

A lost cause & a big part of the problem. With your support the insane will continue to murder people.

Its idiotic because its your words, - its you twisting other peoples words. No one has said it has anything to do with their solution. The problem is that you don't have any solutions of your own, and you automatically oppose ANY solution proposed by anyone else. You insist on status quo, which is to allow the insane to continue to kill people.

So, what is your solution?

People want to carnage to stop, so any idea is welcome.

What is your solution? Justice Scalia agreed with me, along with vast majority of other gun owners,

 

That's certainly what it looks like.
It's as if the anti gun crowd thinks that all killing would stop if all guns disappeared.

 

only the most intellectually deficient think that-most don't care-they want to punish a culture they hate and they use gun banning to accomplish that

 

I'd be happy to list possible solutions that I've mentioned in previous comments when I get out of the hospital since I just have my phone with me.

 

Let me explain yet again. I am not willing to support a scheme that will cause lengthy delays to honest people buying guns because YOU THINK it might keep some "crazy people" who have yet to be adjudicated mentally incompetent from owning guns. Based on my extensive knowledge of this issue and my research, your scheme will cause up to a year delay for someone to meet the unconstitutional standards you want to impose.

 

Does anyone want to answer this question

over 20 million guns were sold last year. How long would it take to obtain a firearm legally if Pro Line's scheme was implemented that requires a gun buyer to pass a mental health evaluation before taken delivery of the next firearm they choose to buy. Now this is not the NCIS background check that has adjudication of mental incompetence in the data base but rather a requirement everyone has to meet no matter what

 

tell me again, I cannot recall seeing your answer

and I cannot recall where you have stated that after a certain period of time, the requirement would not be applicable

 

I did an advance search of "mental health evaluation time completion'

the search REVEALED NO RESULTS

 

Those obvious problems are intentional.

 

Can you explain why I am a "liar" for asking Pro Line to tell us how long he thinks a gun owner should have to wait for a "mental health evaluation" before being able to take delivery of the gun? Is it a lie for me to ask him to actually state that and WTF is the purpose of him demanding MY SOLUTIONS when it is he who wants to impose this unconstitutional requirement on lawful persons seeking to buy a gun

 

OH I will post this here for yet another time

1) enforce the federal perjury charges on those who fill out a 4473 and are PROPERLY DENIED through the background check

2) enforce the federal perjury charges on those who engage in straw purchases for people they know or should know cannot own guns

3) enforce the federal statute that penalizes felons and other prohibited persons who are caught with firearms

4) get rid of gun free zones

5) prevent those who commit violent felonies from having access to civil redress if their intended victims hurt or kill them

6) increase the penalties for those who use firearms to facilitate a crime of violence

7) require state agencies to keep the background check facility up to date

 

Hope you feel better man.

 

Because "racist" and "liar" are the Left's two most common retorts when they know they're wrong.

 

Have you ever seen him explain how long a gun buyer would have to wait before getting their gun and how long-under his proposed "solution" to mentally ill people getting guns - person should have to wait for the evaluation. I think that is fair question because a right delayed is a right denied

 

Many thanks....

They're going to try to remove a blockage in my heart .

I brought some Drano with me just in case it's an especially stubborn blockage.

Thanks again,