Twisting Scripture: The lies of Homosexuality.

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  1. Maxwell

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    Read the book of Acts. Saul was chosen by Jesus and changed his name to Paul. Do a thorough exhaustive study on the book of Acts.

    Here's your word.
    http://biblehub.com/greek/arsenokoitai_733.htm
     
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    Acts was written rather late...... about 100 AD.
     
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    Right, doesn't it concern you that there were no witnesses to this?

    All the other times Jesus came before the apostles after he died, they were in company.

    But clever old Saul was all by himself when HE CLAIMS Jesus tapped him on the shoulder and asked him to tell everyone else how to live.
    Because in the 30+ years on Earth and in the presence of 4 scribes, Jesus had forgotten to mention some really important things. And then in several visits to his chosen apostles after he died he still forgot to mention that gay thing.

    Go figure
     
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    Christianity is voluntary, it tolerates non-Christians. Islam is not voluntary, it is literally convert or either be killed or be a slave.
     
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    There is no basis for claiming Acts was written around 100 AD.

    Acts was written by Luke, who was Paul's companion and physician and biographer. Luke also had contact with the other Apostles and early Christians so what Luke wrote was either personally witnessed by Luke or recorded as told to Luke by other witnesses.

    Luke died in Greece about 84 AD. Acts had to have been written before 84 AD. Since it mentions Paul in Rome, it had to have been written after Paul had been in Rome (AD 61-63). Acts was written sometime between 61 AD and 84 AD.
     
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    So? It was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
     
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    Here you go.

    Acts of the Apostles, early Christian Writings

    http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/acts.html

    - - - Updated - - -

    That's not true.. There are tens of thousands of Americans living and working in the ME for more than 50 years.
     
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    Should I let the families in several parts of Christian Africa know this delightful news, or do you want to?
    Not all Muslims are evil, nor are Christians, but it is corrupt to proclaim one is less savage than the other at its core roots.
     
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    You are right. The bible does ban homosexuality.

    Romans 1:
    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    27 and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    1 Corinthians 6:
    9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,

    1 Timothy 1:
    10 The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching
     
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    Read the New Testament. Read the Koran. The Koran is clearly, unequivocally violent. Christianity is famous for the Golden Rule, islam is famous for war and conquest.
     
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    You really failed with that one - your link argues that Acts was written by Luke, and gives a strong argument for Acts being written between 62 AD and 84 AD.

    At the end, your link mentions one aspect that some claim supports a post-90 AD date for Acts, and that is based on some common comments in Josephus and Luke and the assumption that one referred to the other. This assumes Luke referenced Josephus - and it is pure assumption, its more likely Josephus referenced Luke, or that neither referenced the other.

    Your link was long, you did not read it, but thanks for supporting my claim.
     
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    I believe there is a Satan, Devil, deceiver, the very same one that deceived Eve in the Garden of Eden, and sometimes the Devil uses Church Folks to do his work,
    Each person needs to seek salvation for themselves, not go judging the actions of others or fight people that are
    (perceived as being) sinful.
     
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    Paul wrote to the Corinthians regarding a man in the church that was sleeping with his stepmother. Paul said to the church should tell him to knock it off and if he didn't to toss him out. Many people get confused with the judgement thing. We are to judge behavior, but not condemn. There is a difference.
     
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    The church was nothing then. Constantine created the church and the bible 300 years after christ. Paul was a self appointed " disciple." The bible cannot be the word of god unless you believe God is an iron aged jew that is hardly literate.
     
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    How can you say homosexuality isn't a sin? That's like saying anything else isn't a sin.
     
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    What does marriage even mean? I hate to sound uneducated but thats why this topic confuses me.
     
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    Here, let me google that for you
     
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    More importantly-why do people say homosexuality isn't a sin? Obviously having an improper relationship is a sin-like anything else is a sin.

    Morally we say private parts because bibically sex is only for a husband and a wife, and nudity became sinful after we lost our innocence.
     
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    Where does it say effeminate?

    "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men"

    Or is this something that's found in yet another re-edited version of the Bible?
     
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    They use the Greek word μαλακοὶ (malakoi) which has the meaning:
    • "Softer for the handling now than when he burned the ships with blazing fire."[8]
    • "Delicate men spring from delicate countries."[9]
    • "The disposition of the female is softer, and more tameable and submissive".[10]
    • "Even during the levying of the war he had gained credit for weakness".[11]
    • "He made little difficulty about the pay".[12]
    • "Not to let himself be shamed down, for fear of being thought a coward if he do not vote for war".[13]
    • "Self-restraint is the opposite of Unrestraint, Endurance of Softness.[14]
    • "Too soft to stand up against pleasure and pain".[15]
    • "Periander, reflecting on this, and resolving not to show any indulgence ..."[16]
    • "The words of the cunning knaves are soft." Septuagint, Prov. 26.22.
    • "Kings were no longer chosen from the house of Codrus, because they were thought to be luxurious and to have become soft." From the Athenian Constitution.[17]
    • "Some of the kings proved cowardly in warfare"
    Technically we in the west live soft lives so its either condemning people who live soft lives like us or referring to men who act like women like we see in gays. Either ways its pretty bad. So are people born in first-world countries doomed to eternal torment?
     
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    Ok, but what defines effeminate by the standards of today? If you go by the ancient standards, I would be based on the fact that I cook, bake, am skilled in several fiber arts and know my way around a sewing machine. So do I need to beg the forgiveness of the local priest to keep my fanny out of hell as a result?
     
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    Not everyone believes in the concept of sin, or the Bible for that matter.
     
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    You mean like every English translated version of the Bible? You do realize none of them are a direct translation... right?

    Smh
     
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    Without the concept of sin, "private parts" is just cultural and not moral. That is my reason for homosexuality being wrong.

    I won't even call animal behavior homosexual or gay because they aren't moral beings with physical boundaries.
     

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