Two and a half hour explaination of everthing Creationism.

I was not trying to show the exact species that evolved into a whale, I was only trying to show that whales evolved from land mammals. You are making a straw man argument.

 

No, you are the one ignoring evidence and continuing on with conversation just to rile up people, you sound exactly like another certain poster we have here. You already said that evolution happened, you just don't believe speciation happens because ....? Oh wait, you don't actually have a reason beyond ignoring examples of observed speciation.

 

Hey ptif, have you ever heard of words having more than one meaning?

 

Which is a member of the great ape species... Thanks for playing.

 

To add on to Nosferax:

Hominidae

 

And the evidence to support the above claim:

 

Calling creationism a theory is a logical fallacy.

 

Either that or this is really DBM or NB under another alias... Lots of those on this board lately...

 

You should really learn what the terms you are using mean.

A theory in science is not an unproven fact.

 

I was going to save an image, put a circle around a portion of it, save it, upload it, and post here. However, it is not worth my time. I can much more easier get past your red herring with a simple question;

What is it to choke?

The answer will answer the question of your diversion, and allow you to get mack on track.

It has been shown more than once, you simply refuse to see it.

 

You may want to ask the San Diego Chargers that question

 

Those who are doubtful of evolution would be far more credible if they could actually pr'oduce evidence that contradicts evolution instead of asking various forum members to spoon feed them the theory. I'm not here to force my views on people or judge an idividuals beliefs but I do think it is important that people understand what the theory of evolution actually entails as well as understand that it is not anti-religous or anti-christian. Evolution only contradicts a a very narrow interpretation of the bible. Personally, the science of it is what brought me to christianity. Science books are constantly being changed to conform to new science. Religous texts have changed little and shouldn;t be changed so long as they are not used to define scientific dogmas.

 

Many ministers have PHD's.......Martin Luther Kind had a PHD in Theology. That's why he was a doctor.

 

Hovind went to a diploma mill. You can actually read his stolen dissertation (yes, it had to be stolen for people to read it even though the usual rule is to put them in the university's library). It's a (*)(*)(*)(*)ty read that makes it quite obvious that the Patriot Bible University is all about getting you a non accredited phd if you pay enough money.

 

You can condemn bad design, but you can not condemn a mindless process.

 

You know why they do this? They are on a fishing expedition for any minor mistatement to use as foothold for continuing disagreement, as if mistatements actually affect the theory itself. It's called trolling.

 

You are the straw man. You use general generic animal groups and this is proof? Show specific species or it is just more BS with no proof

 

No specific species means it is more faith and religion than it is fact or science

 

I don't think you even understand what evolution is.

Please give me a definition of evolution, a scientific sounding one.

 

No apes are primates humans are homo sapien

 

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Homo+sapiens

Homo sapiens (sp-nz)
The modern species of humans. Archaic forms of Homo sapiens probably evolved around 300,000 years ago or earlier in Africa, and anatomically modern fossils are known from about 100,000 years ago. All humans now living belong to the subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens.

 

Lets look at some more

http://www.kent-hovind.com/lies/chromosome.htm





Number of Chromosomes:




Fern


480


The ultimate goal.

White Ash


138


Carp


100


Goldfish


94


Sweet Potato


90


Turkey


82


Chicken
Dog
Duck


78
78
78


Identical Triplets!

Horse


64


Cow


60


Silkworm


56


Cotton


52


Amoeba


50


Chimp
Tobacco


48
48


Identical Twins!

Human


46


Bat


44


Wheat


42


Soybean


40


Cat


38


Starfish


36


Apple


34


Alligator
Onion


32
32


Identical Twins!

Frog


26


Opossum
Redwood
Kidney Bean


22
22
22


Identical Triplets!

Corn
Marijuana
Carrot


20
20
20


Identical Triplets!

Lettuce


18


Honeybee


16


Garden Pea


14


House Fly
Tomato


12
12


Identical Twins!

Fruit Fly


8


Penicillium


2

 

Is it proven? If not than it is unproven

 

No there is theory that is full of holes and time gaps and missing links. What species has been proven both man and ape evolved from?

 

How can you disprove what has not been proven?