UFO's aliens...what are they? Are they demons?????

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Are the various technological advanced alien races beings from another planet?

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  2. No

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  3. No.. I believe that most aliens are demons who are in rebellion against our Creator.

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  4. Perhaps some alien races are on our side... and want to see our Creator save this world.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    UFOs, AI & America's Future [What's Coming?]

    One thing that I am certain of is that the UFO phenomena is definitely important... and it is a big part of the future of this earth and how world events will work out.





    Are the beings that people encounter really alien life forms from another planet in the universe somewhere... or are they demons?

    Are they beings from a higher invisible dimension posing as aliens from another planet?

    Is the alien agenda important for how world events will finally work out?




    The Unidentified Just Became IDENTIFIED- Coffee Talk - Kevin Zadai

     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is what a near death experiencer wrote about what he was shown about at least some of the aliens who are involved in events on this earth.

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

     
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    I have arrived at the conclusion that the most powerful aliens are truly Extra-dimensional as opposed to being extra-terrestrial life forms.

    I believe that the highest level most powerful "alien" life forms are on the side of humanity and actually work for our original Creator and they will prevent us humans from destroying this earth and all life on earth.

    https://near-death.com/howard-storm-nde/

     
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    There is no evidence of there being aliens.

    Postulating what aliens might be when there isn't evidence of existences is a mistake.

    Dying isn't a method of investigation.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I met a buddy at work whose testimony of having met some aliens who would be termed "Grey's" was so impressive that I just assumed that he was telling the truth to the best of his ability.

    Orbs.... are a common phenomena....and another person that I know of claims to have captured them on special night vision cameras and the faces within the orb's appeared to be "demonic" to him and his friends.

    I know of a near death experiencer who has a much more positive view of "Orb's'


    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html

     
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    The bulk are fakes. But the very fact that there are so many fakes means that there are also genuine things.

    There are demons too. But not all paranormal phenomena are the result of demonic forces. There is also God and His angels. And life on other planets, just like on Earth, had to evolve from creatures devouring each other to God in the flesh.

    Civilizations that have reached God do not seek to come into contact with present-day humanity, just as we do not seek to communicate with insects.

    The second thing that exists is our own ability to generate this world that is invisible to most. Therefore, anyone can fall for such an illusion created by themselves.

    ... and [there shall be] a bridle in the jaws of the people, causing [them] to err. (Isaiah 30:2 )

    It shall even be as when an hungry [man] dreameth, and, behold, he eateth; but he awaketh, and his soul is empty: or as when a thirsty man dreameth, and, behold, he drinketh; but he awaketh, and, behold, [he is] faint, and his soul hath appetite: so shall the multitude of all the nations be, that fight against mount Zion.
    Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.
    For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.

    (Isaiah 39:8-10)

    In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness. (Zechariah 12:4)

    Dennis, is there such an expression in English? - "X mounted his hobbyhorse".

    I think that these are the “horses” that the prophet Zechariah talks about. Christianity has mounted its horses, but these horses will take them to the wrong place, because they are all captive of their own illusions, every denomination. The same goes for UFO believers.

    Salvation from error is the general assembly of saints in Christ, this host is described in Revelation 19:14.
     
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    Thank you for this........

    This guy has had one of the most astonishing near death experiences that I have ever listened to.

    A really shocking part was hearing him see demons.... acting as the loved ones of those who have a short near death experience.... which apparently is done to give people the impression that we can do whatever we want... and still go to paradise!


    Atheists and Agnostics have some of the most astonishing near death experiences!

    The part about Adolf Hitler is after the fifty eight minute mark in this video.

    There is a fascinating detail in this near death experience how even in The Pit of Hell if you will say the name of Jesus the demons there cannot grab hold of you and devour you like they obviously wanted to do. This is after the twenty three minute mark in this video. Former Atheist Howard Storm noticed similar things in the parts of the afterlife that he viewed.


     
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    Interdimensional certainly seems more plausible than extraterrestrial. Especially since travel from other solar systems would likely require transdimensional technology. Even if they're from this universe, they prolly would have to travel through a parallel one to get here.

    What is the difference between a being from another dimension and an 'angel' or a 'demon'? I cant think of any that matter.
     
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    True.....

    the following near death experiencer saw all kinds of different demons during his near death experience and yes......

    some of them seemed to be like Reptilian Aliens.... or Grey's.......

    This NDE gives the most astonishing explanation for the fall of Covering Cherub Helel that I have ever heard.......

    in a way... this explains the worship of Satan... how it began.....

    and the end of Satanism is certainly hinted at as well.


    "Bill Gates desperately needs to hear the following... but so do all the rest of us as well."

     
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    Get over it. Life is just as replete as the omniverse.
     
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    I'm not sure about none. What do you think of this (particularly the part about the Nimitz incident):

    Estimating Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles - PMC (nih.gov)

    Supports unmanned probes with technology far beyond anything we can explain. Or ex-biologics that hybridized with their technology. I don't want to say it's definitively proof, but it's something. It would be nice to get an independent validation of some of the data. It speaks of multiple modalities for some of the observations, such as radar. Data on top of eyewitness accounts is much more compelling.

    It's not the only thing that made me lean towards them being of alien origin, but it's one of the better things I've seen.
     
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    That article makes major assumptions that whatever was reported was as reported. It does not include the debunking of the Nimitz sightings or any other objection to the interpretation given by sensing (human or electronic).

    One can't say these events are inexplicable without looking at the proposed explanations for those events.

    Could aliens visit Earth without our being able to detect their arrival and existence? I presume so. But, I don't believe we have scientific evidence that it has happened - that aliens arrived and stayed, without being seen except for having made mistakes of various kinds once in a while.
     
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    Okay let’s talk specifically about it.

    “the Princeton’s radar systems detected as many as 20 anomalous aerial vehicles, which could not be identified. The UAVs were entering the training area and were deemed a safety hazard to the upcoming exercise. The Captain of the USS Princeton ordered an interception with two F/A-18F Super Hornet fighter jets.”

    So this isn’t some pilot saw something and misinterpreted it. There ought to be radar data. Why doesn’t somebody come out and say the radar was dysfunctional, or present the data?

    But we do have separate corroboration from both radar operators and pilot. As well as the ATFLIR imaging.

    I have not seen a convincing debunking of Nimitz at all. I recall an unconvincing hypothesis related to the ATFLIR suggesting that the apparent rapid acceleration was due to losing the lock on it. But the lock was lost after the acceleration started and due to it being beyond a normal acceleration, not before. And the unusual flight characteristics were seen separately by the radar operator that day and on a different day.

    Given corroborating accounts, the only reasonable explanations include a conspiracy by both pilot and radar operator to lie or that they did detect craft with unusual flight characteristics. The conspiracy seems unlikely given information available and lack of anybody else who was there, like the captain, debunking them.
     
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    I've already spent too much time on this topic.

    I'm not going to try to convince you to moderate your view.

    Please remember that our DoD has a mission that doesn't allow for disclosure.
     
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    The U in UFO means unidentified; case closed.
     
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    In a way you are correct.....

    because there is no way that I could make the statement that the following UFO might not even be "angelic" and actually sent from the Creator????????




    Here is an article from that time period that opens the door to the possibility of this perhaps being an angelic UFO on a mission from YHWH???????


    There is an article similar to this one but it came out several days before that January 2011 UFO sighting.


    Report: Jordan's Waqf Is Slowly Destroying Temple Mount Antiquities
    The Judean Staff

    Archaeology

    25 August 2023


     
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    what are you trying to convert? Be a bit more concise please.

    BTW how does ‘U’ for unknown somehow become a possible extraterrestrial, an angel, a demon, Irish Fair, or anything else?
     
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    You need to take a FAR different approach to the unknown.

    Please note that you have not produced ANY evidence or methodology for identifying objects that ARE known.
     
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    1. Well evidence has been posted on YouTube. Must be something kniwn?Lol
     
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    Waiting for the day the earth will stand still; it’s been prophesized by Hollywood.
    Where will they land and what leader would they asked to see?

    What will their religion be?
     
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    To a closed and uncurious mind, there is nothing that exists except what the TV and media tell you.

    To a curious and open mind, there are mountains of evidence. We are not alone, and we have never been alone.
     
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    No credible physical evidence has been shared. Eye witness accounts are not credible sources of evidence.
    As soon as the descripter unknown is applied, it’s end of conversation; you can’t go from unknown to known to be aliens.
    Given history, for instance, the development of secret plane development (U2, sR71, U2, f111, etc. at Area 51 along with elaborate cover stories designed to mislead, might it mot be other non ailien explations might be more plausible.
    I think of Window in WWII used to confuse German radar operators, where DARPA might be testing visual/sensor spoofing technologies to augment stealth capabilities we have been developing for decades. As for aliens and crashed craft, does it make sense that aliens have the technology to send craft across the great reaches of space, but once here they suddenly fu and crash? Then too, they are always managing to elude our ability to properly detect them? Why would they care? It would seem alien stealth posture would create an entire industry of fiction to account for their motives; and why would we think we are so important?
    I personally think was is being witnessed is Irish faries mucking with us.
     
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    The US, China and others are scouring the Earth, other planets and other solar systems for signs of life.

    Reports of Earthly sightings get debunked and then they get used as evidence again - zombie "evidence" that will never die.

    I'm hugely in favor of our massive effort to find signs of life while we also study how this universe works.

    But, the suggestion of "mountains of evidence" is, unfortunately, false. We all need to check our minds to assure that we don't have a conclusion before there is evidence.
     
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