ukraine's Azov 'brigade' returns to front

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  1. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

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    I don't listen to the Kremlin. I can see the propaganda has got a firm grip on you, though. If you'd pay attention, you'd see bits of reality making its way into some western sources. They're starting to hedge their bets in anticipation of the inevitable.
     
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    Spoke as if a true Russian troll. . .

    FYI. In Russia, all news is one sided and if anyone reports news that doesn't fit the Kremlin narrative, they are reprimanded. This includes jail for those who repeat offenses.

    In the West, we have actual Freedom of speech where one can act like a pro Russian outcast to their hearts desire screaming "I love Putin" in downtown NYC all day. Just talk out loud that you love Biden in Russia will get you imprisoned. Or, just criticize their military and tell me how it goes for you. I can criticize American military all day long with zero problems.

    In America, there are news outlets that disagree with everything that America has going on with Ukraine and Russia with zero problems. If you disagree in Russia, you go to jail or fly out a window.

    Massive difference. And, those who disagree surely must be Russian trolls or those who are too jaded in their personal agendas. You are not fooling anybody.
     
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    Ukrainians want to fight. Russians want to go home.
     
  4. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

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    So I can put you in the "butthurt will be epic" camp?
     
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    Oh....any source for these 70 yr olds Woogsie?

    Sounds like Putler sending kids?

     
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    upload_2023-8-30_9-35-46.jpeg
    upload_2023-8-30_9-35-46.png The Independent
    Ukraine live: Putin sending 'poorly trained troops' to frontline amid drone strikes
     
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    Yup....any links woogsie?.....or you just make your own delusional conclusion?
     
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    It was in the Financial Times. The following has a link to it but it's behind a paywall.

    According to the section of the FT report in question: By the end of the year, European trainers were full of praise for the "tremendous motivation" of the recruits, despite the stress of the brutal war they are fighting and the daily dangers to friends and family back home. But they also said that the age and ability of the soldiers they are sent varies wildly, as Ukrainian commanders on the front line are often unwilling to spare their best men. One volunteer who turned up in Germany was 71 years old.

    via @planettoday #PlanetToday: https://www.planet-today.com/2023/08/ft-discovers-71-year-old-ukrainian-in.html?m=1
     
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    Note the word "volunteer." Ukrainians have those; Russians don't.
     
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    Put me in the non-delusional faction that actually see's Putin and his elite cronies for what they truly are. The rest are just sheep who have actually believe in Kremlin Disinformation.

    I can put you in the sheep category that loves living in a Dictatorship where there is NO Freedom of Speech and have very restricted rights.
     
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    Key word...."volunteer"....woogsie.

    Orcs are pushed into the meatgrinder.

    How bout those drone strikes I to Pskov.....chaos, and craploads of military damaged or destroyed....3 day op going on 553 days?...to RuZZki airfields torched.

    I suspect Kremlin clown show will blame NATO.....since not far from Baltics....LOL.
     
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    Mississippi is a dictatorship? Ok. Call it what you want if it keeps your ilk out of here.
     
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    If that were true, the war would already be over. Russians can go home any time they want. The fight is all on them.
     
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    If they try to leave they are killed by Russian security personnel.
     
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    Living in Mississippi is still far better than a small state in Russia or any communist regime by a far margin.
     
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    The West you say? You mean the U.S. that is currently trying to imprison a former President for speech? We ain't got freedom of speech anymore....that time is long gone.

    Is the left in control? Then yes.
     
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    Naw. We have Tate Reeves for a governor. Looks like a boy scout and is crooked as they come, but he is a Republican. He's up for re-election and is being challenged by a second cousin of Elvis. Now that boy is more of a Blue Dog Democrat, but the Democratic party in the state is a bunch of leftists.
     
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    If Trump lived in Russia, he would have already been thrown out a window.
     
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    It is Purveyor-level absurdity to claim Trump's alleged crimes are protected speech. By such an absurd standard, RICO laws would never be enforceable, nor laws against incitement.

    If you were to publicly say the sorts of things about Putin that you say about Biden and other public figures that you hate for no valid reason, you'd find out pretty quickly how good you have it here.
     
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    https://www.conservapedia.com/Maidan_coup

    "On February 20, 2014, snipers firing from a building controlled by the Pravy Sektor shot and killed 25 people, both police and protesters."
     
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    Ok, I already noticed that you have a copy/paste talent from various **** websites. But where is evidence, that these snipers were controlled by Pravij Sektor and how Soros is involved here?
     
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    Soros funded the "color revolutions" designed to place US puppets in former Soviet states under the guise of "democracy promotion."

    As far as which side was responsible for killing 48 protestors and several police officers, ask yourself which side most benefitted from the murders?

    https://www.internationalist.org/who-was-behind-2014-maidan-massacre-2204.html

    "In an initial paper “The ‘Snipers’Massacre’ on the Maidan in Ukraine,” presented at a seminar at the University of Ottawa in October 2014, and then updated and revised for presentation along with two video appendixes at the American Political Science Association (APA) annual meeting in September 2015, Katchanovski summed up his findings:

    "'This academic investigation concludes that the massacre was a false flag operation, which was rationally planned and carried out with a goal of the overthrow of the government and seizure of power'.

    "'It found various evidence of the involvement of an alliance of the far right organizations, specifically the Right Sector and Svoboda, and oligarchic parties, such as Fatherland.'

    "'Concealed shooters and spotters were located in at least 20 Maidan-controlled buildings or areas. The various evidence that the protesters were killed from these locations include some 70 testimonies, primarily by Maidan protesters, several videos of ‘snipers’ targeting protesters from these buildings, comparisons of positions of the specific protesters at the time of their killing and their entry wounds, and bullet impact signs.'"
     
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    Another wing nut news outlet with basically Zero following....nice work.
     
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