Ultra-Orthodox Jews Should Stop Killing Chickens, Animal Rights Activists Say

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  1. Gilos

    Gilos Well-Known Member

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    Well this practice comes from 2nd temple era, the chicken or money are handed to the poor as donation, its barbaric because money is a better substitute in modern time but talking about pulling such ppl into the 21st century isn't really you're objective here is it ?
     
  2. truth and justice

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    Do you go around spying on the work force of slaughter houses? Perhaps you can post the dates that these Muslims started working there. Could you also post a photo of the packaging of your chicken as surely it should show the location of this slaughter house that is near you. Meanwhile you must be really stupid to continually buy your chicken from this slaughter house. Are you really stupid?

    Still waiting for you to say anything about the OP other than you using the thread to attack a different religion in your attempt to divert attention?
     
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    Where do I call the "Chicken" thing a Zionist practice ?
    P
    erhaps you need an upgrade and refresher on your level of BASIC English literacy?

    When it comes to throwing around the insult "IGNORANT" you should perhaps re-read my
    post, then check your mirror. Though some may find Jewish Kosher slaughter reprehensible,
    I
    must wonder at the priorities of people who focus on the Kosher slaughter of "Chicken",
    w
    hen the much more repugnant Zionist practice of the slaughter of "Human Beings" is ignored

    Who is it that equates Judaism with Zionism ? - Who is it that lays the charge of Anti-Semite upon
    anyone who dares to criticize the Zionist entity now in control of Israel and the greater Palestine ?
    W
    ho is it, that with a broad brush, paints a whole people as Weeds to be mowed down, or as Snakes
    to be slain and expunged from the Land they have lived on for centuries ?

    The stupid, illogical, and irrational conflation of Zionism with Judaism is lain at the step
    of the fanatical Zionist ideologue, NOT mine.


    Well thanks for that ! - In my travels, here about, I have been called, a "dirty NAZI" and a
    "filthy Jew", and now I am equated an Arab/Muslim. Thank You for that ! - I must be doing
    something right - However for your info I am none of those things

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    WARNING - SOME WILL FIND CONTENT DISTURBING

    The Kosher Abattoir
    http://photos.demandstudios.com/getty/article/129/148/57138834_XS.jpg

    The Zionist Abattoir
    https://desertpeace.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/lets-play-dead.jpg
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    ARE YOU ABLE TO PERCEIVE THE DIFFERENCE< BROTHER GILOS ????

    The difference from what the Zionist terms Snakes or Weeds to be driven or mowed
    down from their garden, the difference between the ritual slaughter of Chickens and
    ....................................................... ......................... the ritual slaughter of Human Beings ?

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  4. Grau

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    We've got egg laying hens and the way these barbaric Orthodox Jews treat them IS unnecessarily painful.
    Please see post #34
    What they're doing is not only archaic & cruel but illegal
    As I've mentioned before, allowing Orthodox Jews to break the law in such a perverse manner only engenders resentment against them & promotes genuine anti Semitism
     
  5. Grau

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    RE: "Holocaust 'Fatigue"
    You've got to be kidding:

    "POLL: JEWS OVERPLAY THE HOLOCAUST"
    http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-News/Poll-Jews-overplay-the-Holocaust

    EXCERPT "Europeans believe Jews talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust, a poll conducted by the Anti-Defamation League and released Thursday revealed" CONTINUED
     
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    *sigh* Do people really listen to PETA nowadays? I mean, this is the same group that euthanized the vast majority of the animals in their care, and yet they’re giving Jews s*** for killing chickens? Hypocritical much? :p
    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...d-very-bad-history-of-killing-animals/254130/
    I’m all for the humane treatment of animals, including livestock, but PETA’s methods are just....bizarre, to put it nicely. Maybe instead of flapping their mouths and complaining about everything, they can actually TRY to do something about it instead of being a bunch of hypocrites. :p
     
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    Re:
    What PETA does is not the issue here.
    The protestors etc not criticizing Jews for just killing chickens but for the torturous way in which the chickens are treated during the antiquated, cruel & perverse "ritualistic tradition" & then simply throwing away the dead chickens
    Additionally, this ritualistic tradition is against the law so by allowing Jews to openly violate laws by which civilized people are supposed to live breeds resentment against the entire Jewish community.
    In the eyes of Mental Health professionals, individuals who are cruel to animals are likely to be cruel and arrogantly abusive to other humans
     
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    If they'd tried mass-murder as well as the ethnic cleansing of those who owned the country, they'd have been slung out at once by the world and had to go to America, as you know. What a charming example of Republican manhood you are!
     
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    Eh?
     
  10. Doofenshmirtz

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    There are many traditions that involve animal cruelty. From bull fighting to the slaughter of dolphins in Taiji, I have to side with the animals, not the tradition. Its sad to see such insensitivity to suffering. There is no reason any animal should live like a dog in Islam.
     
  11. truth and justice

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    I also always side with animals but why did you have to nullify your post with the redundant last sentence? In your post you highlight the Catholics torturing bulls, the Shinto torture of dolphins and we can add the Christian hunting of foxes yet did you mention their religion?

    As for dogs in Islam, dogs are seen as dirty but they are not tortured. All Islam says is that they should not be kept as pets, only kept as working animals. A Muslim family neighbours save scrap food to feed to a family of foxes living in the gardens around here. They even buy dog food to give to those foxes. The foxes wait in the garden to be fed at the same time every night. They have been doing that for twenty years.
     
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    Where in the Islamic world are dogs sacrificed?
     
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    Religious people effectively torture animals because they believe (like the Bible says) that god gave them dominion over the animals. End religion and most of that torture would end.
     
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    Nonsense - they don't have the guts to change the texts of their barbaric religion. In all fairness, neither do Muslims, Christians, Hindus, etc.
    Modern Secular Humanists, however, do care enough about people to change/updated/modernize their written beliefs.
     
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    Mohammad said to kill all black dogs. Look it up.
     
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    For guidance, religious people look to people who were so ignorant that they didn't even know "where the sun went at night"(!), so of course those same ancient barbarians are lousy role models for many many other things as well, such as animal rights, or LGBT rights, or women's rights, etc., etc.
     
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    I did.

     
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    Yes, this is crazy stuff:
    From Abu Dawud #2839
    Abd Allah B. Mughaffal reported the apostle of Allah as saying: Were dogs not a species of creature I should command that they all be killed; but kill every pure black one.
    The Hadith's note for #2839 says, "The prophet did not order the killing of all the dogs, for some are to be retained for hunting and watching. He ordered to kill the jet black ones. They might be more mischievous among them.


    So Mohammad was racist against blacks.....
     
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    Texts are only texts. I care a lot more about actions. They do, after all, speak louder than words.
     
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    I spent 10 - 11 months in the Islamic Mid East and never saw or heard of one dog being sacrificed. The onus is on you to show where Mohammad said to kill all black dogs.
     
  21. truth and justice

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    Instead of feeding the troll, have you anything to say about the OP, something that is happening now?
     
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    We may just have to disagree on starving to death being torture. It doesn't matter if people torture animals for tradition, religion, sport, or just because they are mean; Being insensitive to the pain of an animal is a low level of character. My comment was a response to the real spirit of this thread.
     
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    The same place where I claimed they were sacrificed. The reason for cruelty is irrelevant.
     
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    People kill and eat chickens thousands of times a day so yes, it is not material to debate. You're obviously a tiresome ass with a profound hatred against Jews. You need professional help for your profound mental health issues before you do something dangerous.
     
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    I, this very day, posted a complete statement on Islam and dogs. They are told to kill all black dogs. It seems to me they don't like dogs at all. A fox is not a dog. If it was, it would be called a dog and not a fox.
     

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