Ultra-Orthodox Jews Should Stop Killing Chickens, Animal Rights Activists Say

Real spirit? What have Muslims got to do with this thread?
Dogs in the Muslim countries are not starved to death. Perhaps you can give a link where captured dogs are starved to death. They just don't feed stray dogs. Go to any Christian country in the Mediterranean and you will see hundreds of dead stray cats and dogs due to starvation and dehydration.

 

Freedom Seeker has truly been a blessing to inform posters about Islam. The OP, which I had not yet read was over the Jews killing animals. Frankly this is not a topic I am familiar with nor shall I engage in beating up Jews over this. I choose not to engage in discussions where the comment is cows get their throats ripped out.

 

Jews don't bother me. The ritual doesn't bother me. And the death of the chicken doesn't bother me. But the law that won't let them donate the chickens to the poor does bother me. The protesters are flakey. What else is there?

 

The Zoosadistic "tradition" practiced by today's Orthodox Jews is not only an indication of a "low level of character", it's a form of collective mental illness that acts as a "Red Flag" for other forms of cruel, criminal and aberrant behavior that is very likely to exist in that community.
Additionally, it reflects poorly on the entire Jewish community.
What sort of values does this barbaric and anachronistic "tradition" instill in the kids that watch & participate in such a base form of animal torture and what does it communicate about the Judaic religion to the surrounding community at large?
The sooner this bloody and wasteful "tradition" if effectively banned, the better for everyone involved.

"Animal Abuser Registry Act"
http://www.animallaw.com/Model-Law-Animal-Abuse-Registry.cfm
EXCERPT " The link between violence against animals and violence against human beings is well documented. Individuals who mistreat, abuse, or kill domestic animals or wildlife often extend that behavior to humans in the form of domestic violence, child abuse, and in certain cases, even murder."CONTINUED

 

You didn't name any country or support your assertion that dogs are sacrificed in any Islamic country.
Sacrificing dogs is not to my knowledge an Islamic tradition like the sacrificing of chickens & cows is among the ultra Orthodox Jews

 

So you must have a link to a Muslim place where dogs are tortured or sacrificed in the name of Islam

 

The human treat is progress. We don't live in caves anymore.

 

What you describe related to the killing of cows is not kosher. Kosher laws require the humane killing of animals, for cows the neck is cut in a specific manner with a single stroke with an exceptionally sharp and straight knife (the chalif), carotids and jugulars are cut, the cow loses consciousness in <10 seconds. It may thrash for a minute or two but it is not aware - there is no blood in its brain.

Animals are not to be tortured under Judaism. Animals which are ill, injured, tortured, mistreated do not qualify as kosher and cannot be slaughtered.

In fact, if there is any tearing of tissue while an animal is being slaughtered then it is not kosher and must not be eaten - that motivates the butcher to do it properly or he pays for the animal. The knife is required to be so sharp so that its cut is not felt by the animal (Kosher butchers (Shochet) who have cut themselves severely with the chalif say they did not even feel the cut and did not know they had cut themselves).

While the article may be correct, its incorrect to claim that such mistreatment is based in Judaism. And very mistaken to write that the torture of animals is important to Judaism.

 

Many Muslims hate dogs. Why they hate dogs varies, the koran is essentially silent on dogs, the hadith has contradictory statements about dogs.
https://college-usa.org/2017/04/muslims-tell-hate-dogs/

Muslims do love cats. Roasted cat on an open fire is a standard fare in Bahrain. And a tasty one.

 

I already explained the relevancy of my posts. Stop stalking me and twisting what I say.

It is noyb where I live or how often I drive by and see Muslims walking to work in local meat packing plants.

Your assumption that anyone that purchases inferior meat is stupid is sufficient to identify your motives in here.

 

Perhaps you can just post like a normal person without weird line breaking and fonts and your messages will be clearer.

It's crocodile tears, your country slaughters "Human beings" in wars too, your hyperbole is artificial and doesn't bother me.

The OP....
You can "criticize" Israel all you want but if you ride with racists and Nazis you will be treated the same, noble comments to leave Jews alone or not it doesn't matter, the string of posts you haters always weave attack Jews first and focus Zionists later are programmed in your minds to demonize Israel very existence, because...........you all know Israel is a Jewish state for the Jewish ppl and so attacking Jews is a mandatory part of your propaganda.
Simply dont piss on our backs and call it rain...

Actually that's both of us, you broad brush Israelis and I Hamas,

Again with the tears....
A man doesn't live anywhere "for centuries" a nation does and the Palestinians as a nation had their chance but chose war - which they lost, those of them that are willing to kill and die for the lost honor of 70 years ago - will die and if we can help it by an 18 y old boy with a joystick that never leaves his air-conditioned little command room, I'm willing to spend the bare minimum in human lives and expenses to fight fanatics with jihadi death wish, its up to you to immortalize and worship them, we don't care.

Try a little bit of honesty, the OP attacks Jews and you linked this thread using the same cruelty the OP accuses - to Zionists. lay down if my harsh words make you faint, I'm not buying your fake drama or "high morals", at the end of the day its you guys that cheer and support murder of civilians.

"Filthy Jew" would make a nice story, did you mumble that a few Jews might have died by Nazis to your hater peers once ?

Your propaganda is cruel and relentless exactly as in the Arab world which is the origin of your inputs.

Is it any different from Christian or Muslim practice of slaying beasts for meat and slaying human beings in wars ? I cant tell because my heart is so heavy and tears shroud my eyes......ohhh the Humanity....there are ppl dying in wars.......

 

Really...., progress is the objective but its being fought by segments in every country in every society, they are all afraid of stepping out of their tracks, in your "perfect" Europe the recent change are immigrants, complete atheists are now scared they will lose their Christian way.

 

I suppose that's a fair statement from your point of view, so what changed in that equation that you now accuse us of genocide ?

I voted for Rabin in the 90's, was and still is for Oslo accords and the establishment of a Palestinian state, I grew up and realized that talking peace to a ppl that wants revenge can only end up in one way, so till things change over there I bitterly agree with the clown we have as PM today.

 

I'm not kidding at all, the Arabs use Isr-Pal feud to excuse all their fascist regimes, the Palestinian themselves use it to excuse the continuous state of welfare supported entity and postpone the day they will have to stand on their own two feet, I'm not even touching the lies and propaganda, no use talking with you on that...

 

We could always tell a Muslim village by the lack of dogs as we approached it in Lebanon, Christian and Druze had dogs but nothing barking in Muslim villages, at least those I witnessed.

 

Orthodox Jews don't sacrifice cows, they butcher them just like Muslims do which I'm sure you heard of that in your travels right ? the chickens are used for food donations, at least by most segments of Orthodox Jews so its not as some Voodoo magic thing.

 

Donated to who? None of that meat is kosher

 

How does that address the question: So you must have a link to a Muslim place where dogs are tortured or sacrificed in the name of Islam?

 

"Kapparot (Hebrew: כפרות‎, Ashkenazi pronunciation, Kapporois, Kappores) is a customary Jewish atonement ritual practiced by some Jews on the eve of Yom Kippur. This is a practice in which a person waves a chicken around his or her head. The chickens are then given to the homeless or poor as an act of charity (tzedakah)."
"In one variant of the practice of Kapparot, the item to be donated to charity is a rooster. In this case, the rooster would be swung overhead while still alive. After the Kapparot ritual is concluded, the rooster would be treated as a normal kosher poultry product, i.e., it would be slaughteredaccording to the laws of shechita. It would then be given to charity for consumption at the pre-Yom Kippur meal. In modern times, this variant of the ritual is performed with a rooster for men and a hen for women."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapparot

 

Your description does not agree with the principles of Kosher. Jewish Law prohibits causing any pain to animals, the slaughtering has to be effected in such a way that unconsciousness is instantaneous and death occurs almost instantaneously. Swinging a conscious chicken around your head is not painless to the chicken

 

Okay, I read all five pages. I thought perhaps another lawyer would bring up the Supreme Court's ruling on Santeria and animal sacrifice. They can't ban the Jewish practice of animal sacrifice for the simple reason that the Supreme Court already ruled that Miami (Hialeah) couldn't ban animal sacrifice by those practicing Santeria. Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah

Whether or not a law prescribing the limitations, etc., on the suffering of the animal during animal sacrifice would pass muster is not known.

Personally, I would be in favor of banning all animal sacrifice, including Halal slaughter, but you'd have to get past the Supreme Court.

 

It's written very plainly that the chicken is not killed but handed to the butcher, now we to discuss the chicken headaches ?its Orthodox that do this are you the one to lecture Orthodox about how they should butcher according to their religion ? lol

 

You need to separate butchering laws for food and animal sacrifice for some magical purpose, unless ofc the butchering is cruel, both Islam and Judaism butcher laws are not cruel. waiving a chicken over your head to transfer your sins into the chicken is plain stupid and primitive regardless of the chicken use for food later on that's all, less Orthodox use it and use paying some fee instead and I think that's the direction this practice is going.

 

Trait.

 

If done properly Halal and Kosher are more humane than any conveyor belt slaughter house