Unemployed graduates

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by verystormy, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. diamond lil

    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    So you can't do it. Thought not.
     
  2. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

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    Stop being an Ass , Diamond . You confused posts --- suspect you have not even realised that idiocy yet --and have had nothing constructive to say right from the start .
     
  3. Oddquine

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    I do understand that she could have, if she had bothered her arse, have requested the Museum and the Job Centre to change her internship into a Work Experience placement and continued with it.

    But she didn't did she?

    Why not?

    I assume it was an unpaid internship.

    Anyway how is she putting her geology degree to good use by volunteering at Pen Room Museum......which is all about writing and the pen trade?
     
  4. diamond lil

    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    No, you don't know that at all.

    because the job centre wouldn't allow it.

    Why assume that? She didn't claim working at the museum was an internship.



    No, a pen museum is about the history of writing equipment.
     
  5. diamond lil

    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    Stop trolling.
     
  6. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

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    Even a typo there ,.
    you meant , Trilling
     
  7. diamond lil

    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    No, I meant trolling. I can't hear the screeching, thank god.
     
  8. DutchClogCyborg

    DutchClogCyborg New Member

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    So why does the woman not have a job then? She claims to have send hundreds of letters, even without to much work experience if there is a true and huge shortage in that field it would not be hard to find a job or a employer who is willing to invest.
     
  9. verystormy

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    Because she doesnt want to be a practising geologist. She want to be a museum curator. Which, she is not qualified to do. Hence why she is applying for jobs but not getting any response. If she applied for geology jobs she would be employed in a week.
     
  10. diamond lil

    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    Once again, becoming a museum curator is her ambition.
    She didn't say she has only applied for a job as a museum curator.
     
  11. raymondo

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    Nice to get a bit of honesty at last .
    So you are deaf as well as blind .

    Incidentally , because I do not like your opinions , my disagreement does not equate to trolling .
    When you accuse others of being" Trolls " just for disagreeing , you are simply whining and bleating . Hardly edifying .
     
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    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    Another troll post.
     
  13. DutchClogCyborg

    DutchClogCyborg New Member

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    I do not read that at all, she said she applied at hundreds of jobs, I doubt there that many museums
     
  14. raymondo

    raymondo Banned

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    You do not seem able to understand a simple point presented coherently .
    Ask a friend to take you through it , step by step .
    Alternatively read the Forum Rules or even ask the Moderators for their view .
     
  15. diamond lil

    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    She also didn't specify what jobs she had applied for- just that she was now willing to take anything.

    It's common for graduates to be told they are over qualified to do unskilled work, which may be why she can't find a job.
     
  16. verystormy

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    The full interview was broadcast on radio. She applied jobs in museums only. Yes there are that many museums. Pretty much every town, city and even a fair few villages have a museum.

    If you want to get an idea of how many geology jobs there are have a look at infomine.

    I was chatting to a visitor to site the other day who is the Chief Geologist for a company operating near ourselves called RandGold. He was saying how he has 5 vacancies at the moment he cant fill and their not a huge company. Barrick are looking desperatly for grads for projects in Suadi and Zambia. Rio and BHP are desperate for Oz operations. Stratex (a junior company) a looking for guys in Ethiopia. Newcrest are looking for people in Ivory Coast. A Canadian junior whose name escapes are looking for people in Armenia. The list just goes on and on.

    The reason is that the UK, traditionaly one of the biggest producers of geology grads has over the last few years closed half of its geology departments at universities because it is an expensive course to run. Oz has done the same thing. The USA has plenty of grads but for some reason they dont want to work outside the USA which i find a bit bizzare.

    At the same time demand for resources has increased dramiticaly from countries such as China and India meaning massive expansion in the mining sector but the number of qualified people hasnt kept up. It is a major problem for us. Since my last post my boss has said he wants another 2/3 senior people on this site and a number of junior / graduate geologists. That is going to be a major pain to try to fill. Longer term we are going to run a program with local villagers to sponser kids through school and university in geology to give us people for the future. But in the short term it is a nightmare.
     
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    Can you give me a link to the radio broadcast, please?
     
  18. Anders Hoveland

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    Society was never meant to have this many graduates. The problems is that more and more students have been going to university because the wages in all the less educated jobs have fallen so much.

    We should be focusing on decent wages, not increasing education or employment for the educated.
     
  19. raymondo

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    Blimey . You nearly got a post right .
    Your first half is nearly correct - many courses had no job applicability in any quantity . Wages follow demand . They do not pre-empt it !!!
    Your second point is misdirected -- Courses must increasingly be offered on pragmatic grounds .
    Not nice for Learning -- for its own sake .
    But that's a separate Topic .
     
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    I agree that this and any other individual expecting to receive State benifits should be forced to do some kind of work for the money. It will do them good and teach them something for nothing is not an attractive attitude to take in these times.

    Why this individual seems to claim they were forced to work for nothing beggars belief. They are doing something for the State benifits they receive.

    More of this work-fare type schems are required.
     
  21. Oddquine

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    Do you know different?

    Do you have a link to prove that?

    Media reporting of her interviews have described it as an internship.

    The Pen Room describes itself as as a Museum and Learning Centre of Writing and Pen Trade Memorabilia Kindly explain the difference between that and my description of all about writing and the pen trade given that their website gives that impression.

    And kindly explain why a geology degree would be a useful degree to have to have to get a foothold in such a specialised subject anyway.
     
  22. Oddquine

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    But she isn't willing to take anything...she wasn't willing to take work experience in Poundland with the possibility of getting a job there.
     
  23. diamond lil

    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    At the moment nobody is expected to work for nothing whilst looking for paid work.

    It's a shame you don't like it, but that's how it is at the moment.


    The young lady was working for a private company for no pay.

    That is working for nothing.

    There are no such thing, so how can there be more?
     
  24. diamond lil

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    Who said there was a possibility of her getting a job there at the end of it?
     
  25. diamond lil

    diamond lil Well-Known Member

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    Would you provide a link?

    It isn't merely a shop selling pens.

    It describes itself as a museum.

    A degree is the first step in becoming a museum curator.

    http://www.swan.ac.uk/egypt/infosheetgen/museumwork.htm


    and unfortunately will probably also have had to work in a museum as a volunteer.
     

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