UPDATED– ‘Occupy Boston’ Takes Israeli Consulate

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  1. KSigMason

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    Because I have a firm belief that their disgust of Jews comes not from "Israeli oppression", but from bigotry. They just use the conflict between the Palestinians and Israelis as a safety net for the news cameras, but some of their bigoted comments have been caught on camera.

    Here are some videos:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmTMIjkMoLk"]An Analysis of the Occupy Movement[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwK5TBcoUY"]Anti-Jewish Interview[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Z3xJWI5JQ"]School District Employee[/ame]
     
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    Perhaps you should take it up with the Emergency Shelter Commission that asked them to promote their services, then???
     
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    The first video you posted was nothing but pure propaganda aimed at labeling the OWS movement as being supported both by nazi/fascist elements and socialist elements without any evidence at all and then tying the whole thing to a neo-nazi white supremacist conspiracy to unite with radical Islam and hippies to defeat the "Jews". It's beyond laughable and delves into the realm of the pathetic.

    Your second and third videos only support the notion that there are some individuals that are bigoted and uninformed and does not in any way support your assertion that the movement as a whole is anti-Semitic or anti-Israel.
     
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    Riiiight, Chomsky a "self hating Jew"? I didnt watch the other two, I can tell you have your mind made up on this, why bother? BUT....

    If this is what you got, and this is seriously what you believe then whatever "History" youre going to find is going to be sadly confusing for you.

    What about Henry Ford. That Jew hating industrialist, that made America great and what it is today?

    You said you like history, just read the first few of the "free pages" for his book from 1920, it hasnt changed, you cant talk about anything "jewish" without it being considered antisemitic, for someone who says they like history that right there should tell you something.

    [ame="http://www.amazon.com/International-Jew-Worlds-Foremost-Problem/dp/1578989280/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1320953555&sr=1-2"]Amazon.com: The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem (9781578989287): Henry Ford: Books[/ame]

    Right now, you can find incidents that have been documented inaccurately, but they probably were in your favor, so you don't care, but that's hardly the point, the point is that its not being recorded accurately. History isnt how history happen's but how its recorded or written. If you like history then you need to be prepare to accept where history takes you no matter where that is. No one is exempt from ridicule or critique.

    this whole antisemitism is baseless nonsense. I don't like or care for Obama, so does that make me anti American?

    There isnt one single message in the whole of OWS, and to imply its antisemitic is pure folly.

    Oh, look at that, another self hating Jew, this time its a Israeli Minister. OMG!! Its epidemic over their.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE"]Israeli Minister "We always use the anti-Semitism trick or bring up the Holocaust" - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    I do feel compelled to point out that, in the first video, the slogan "Hitler's Bankers" was presented as being evident of anti-Semitic sentiment among OWS protesters.

    The fact of the matter is that Wall Street WAS Hitler's Bankers leading up to and even after US involvement in WWII...

    Read Sutton's works...particularly Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler and Wall Street and Bolshevik Revolution...

     
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    In the Time of Henry Ford 3/4 of the Democrat Members of the House & Senate were affiliated with or Members of The Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and owed their seats to the Political Power House that was the Klan of the Teens & 1920's. Twice there were over 2 Million Kluxers that marched in Washington (With blessing of Democrat controlled House & Senate) 1919 & 1924 . and half the population of the United States had met or knew few (If any) Jews.
     
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    This is total far-fetched nonsense. Israel is not the only state that gets american aid, lots of others (Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan, Afghanistan) do.

    More importantly Israel gets less than $3 billion a year which is pennies in the grand scheme of things and Israel is buying tens of billions of dollars worth of military equipment which is manufactured in the US (as your own post admits) and thus creates tens of thousands of high paying jobs in the US.

    Try again to justify one-issue anti-Israel leeches but this was a non-starter, Israel's military needs create lots of good middle-class american jobs.
     
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    That's what the media keeps telling us. ;)

    Look closer - there is a central message and theme to the OWSnik protests....
     
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    Would that be Antony Sutton?

    I just ordered his last book that I know of, Americas secret establishments, an introduction into the Skull & Bones.

    He apparently received the full list of its members from Charlotte Iserbyt, a former member of the State Dept who's father was a member of "The Order".

    Look promising I must say, I just saw a four video interview with her, and she looks very credible to me. Definitely a "well to do" type, older, nothing to lose, telling her story kind of interview.

    The interview was primarily based in the S&B participation into the Hegelian Dialectic, and Wundt's research in Leipzig. Really good.

    Here is a downloadable copy of the book.
    http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119639.pdf
     
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    There is actually, its END THE FEDERAL RESERVE.

    but the media wants to say its anti Jew, anti capitalist, anti blah blah,...

    If you follow closer you will see that the END THE FED message, which is really Ron Paul, who also wants to end aid to ALL FOREIGN counties, Israel and most Jews here have already said Paul is, as Horowitz puts it "The great Satan" and his Son, Rand, "Little Satan" no kidding. Ending the FED, and shutting down the central banks would put Wall Street bankers essentially out of the Casino like profits they can come to love so much, who is that? Goldman Sach's, BofA, JPMorgan, just go down the list, and yes, their controlling members, mostly Jewish.

    Is it a conspiracy or just the way stuff is?

    Like I said, they print money, the control the cronyism capitalist system, a then get to tax us when they make back investments.

    You figure the rest out. I am not going to get hung up on who's who and what's what. It needs to stop, I could care less who is behind it. If its a friggin Martian, IT HAS TO STOP.

    you play with words, I'll try and stop the machine.

    'There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.' ~ Thoreau.
     
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    Hey Bosco you remember any of this (From the time of Henry Ford) ??
     
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    I never claimed that Israel is the only country that receives US economic aid from the US. That fact does not refute my point.

    This, again, does not refute my point that US policy is driven by corporate profiteering. $3 billion a year is not pennies.

    Isreal's military expenditures are not necessary, and the money they spend on such could be spent on more productive endeavors such as education, infrastructure, and other such economy expanding activities.

    Of course, there would be less need to have US tax dollars subsidize such endeavors, and therefore would result in a reduction in the money being available to funnel into corporate coffers.

    Perhaps you should try again at explaining how Israel isn't relevant to the OWS movement against the marriage of big business and government in the US. I'm sure it'll be amusing again.
     
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    I can't say that I do, but I would be curious to read up on this some more. I know the Klan was spawned out from the South, Tennessee if not mistaken it was anti immigration, anti white, anti communist, and I know the parties over the ages also trade off ideologies but youre saying they were Democrats the KKK of the 20's?

    Yeah, post up what you got I would love to read about it, of course, no offense until then it never happened. Just the way it is.
     
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    Klan was Anti-White ? :winner:
     
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    oops. I meant Anglo Saxon....

    Yep, another self hating group, alot in common with Chomsky I guess...lol
     
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    Bosco ,I have a favor to ask you (Please post up the Klan DC march pics from 1919 or 1924 here so the Rest of the posters here could see the true face & makeup of the Democrat party then) Pretty please ,I have a broken right ring finger & it hurts to type & use it right now (It's buddy splinted & tapped up) so I'm unable too ...:)
     
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    Pictures?

    I found this, cant find any pictures. Its going to have to do. (*)(*)(*)(*) liberals, always looking for handouts!! hehe. :mrgreen:

    http://www1.assumption.edu/ahc/1920s/eugenics/JewsandJazzFord.html
     
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    That's the message of the tiny minority of Libertarians who showed up at Camp ANSWERnik to take advantage of the media attention (as if anti-Fed Libertarians need a bunch of Socialist attention-whores to get their message out and heard).

    Au contraire - the media has done everything within its power to obscure the anti-Capitalist theme and message of the protests...

    The WWP, PSL, ANSWER, and their hangers-on are seeking much more than the abolition of the Fed - you're not seeing the forest from a few trees, my friend. Like I said before, I've personally encountered these anti-Capitalist idiots before - they're NOT Libertarians. Most of them have never even heard of von Mises, Hayek and Rothbard. The Road to Serfdom is paved with their ignorance and bad ideas...

    It's the men and women serving at both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue who established (and abolished) the Fed and its predecessors, Bosco, and they're the same people who are taxing us and picking the winners and losers in our economy instead of letting us pick them ourselves. The TEA Partiers get it - the problem's in Washington. The OWSniks aren't even interested in fixing that problem - they're a bunch of nihilistic idiots who want to throw the baby out with the bath water and replace it with their failed utopian fantasy.

    That sounds nice, Bosco - who's playing with words again? ;)

    If you give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about this country you'd better start caring who's who and what's what, because it DOES matter. It's that kind of intellectual laziness that got us into this mess in the first place...
     
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    Give it a rest already, ending the FEDERAL RESERVE is the primary focus, period. How can we have a "free market" when Govt controls the trade?

    How can we have a Capitalist system when the banking system is in private hands? (with strong ties to Wall Street, Rockefeller, JPMorgan, etc.), there, thats END THE FED 101.

    Here is the real easy way to explain it. Go play a friendly game of Monopoly and control the bank, when you run out of money just print more, and see if they opponent can win?

    or visa versa.

    play with WORDS if you want, play dumb, (if youre playing) if you want. ENDING THE FED is the issue of the day. period.
     
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    Or how about the uber liberal mayor whos derided this practice.

    Do you think the nonhomeless should be allowed to use these services intended for needy folks, not lazy folks?
     
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    lol...I get it, because Jews control everything?

    Keep digging

    Can you name me a few nations that are NOT profiteering in one way or another?
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). The only people in and around OWS who are talking about abolishing the Fed are a handful of Libertarians, and they probably left Camp ANSWERnik and went back to their jobs weeks ago...

    And you think the Socialists in OWS give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about freeing the market? Don't make me laugh...

    There's nothing about market economics you can tell me that I don't already know, Bosco. Save the Econ 101 lessons for the OWSniks and their supporters.

    Ending the Fed is the issue of the day for you and the people who want to fix our economy - not the nihilistic Socialists in OWS who want to destroy it. I'm mystified how any self-respecting Libertarian or Conservative would crawl into bed with those idiots...
     
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    I didn't see any such derision by the mayor in your article...

    I think I don't really know enough about the situation to really make an informed opinion. I suspect that in some cases, particularly the one where they asked the OBG organizers to stop telling people to go to their facilities, that it was taxing resources.

    In general, I would not support people that do not need them to use such resources. Still, the article clearly states that the OBG organizers were asked to promote the programs.

    Fail.
     
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    No, you clearly don't...

    I didn't even come close to implying that at all. That's a lame attempt by you to misrepresent my position without actually addressing ONE word i said.

    Lame...:bored:

    Can you see past the false perception that nations are the top tier of the power structure?
     
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    Promote them for homeless people that is. I see no effort to differentiate between homeless and lazy.

    http://www.necn.com/11/08/11/Occupy...ng_newengland.html?blockID=590538&feedID=4206

    Ironically enough when theres trouble in tent city guess who the occupiers put the blame on.........

    hint: the H_MEL_ SS
     

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