UPDATED– ‘Occupy Boston’ Takes Israeli Consulate

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  1. Bosco Warden

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    South. No, further south then that.
     
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    I'm not basing this on just this incident. All one has to do is listen to some of the crap these OWS have said on the street about Jew this and Jew that.

    And your assumption would be wrong.
     
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    Jews this, Jews that? They are in a consulate? :pc:

    I know, I get it, you're mysterious and spooky. :fart:
     
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    So Mexico has the kind of government you long for?
     
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    I think they are doing a good thing... The US funds Israeli persecution of the Palestinians..

    America is ultimately about being FAIR.. Ideology comes second.

    Why are you opposed to human rights for an oppressed population?
     
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    Just as a racist or homophobic protesters at a tea party rally does not make the tea party movement racist or homophobic, one anti-semitic voice amongst the OWS does not make the OWS movement anti-Semitic. I was recently active in the Brown Students for Justice in Palestine organization (no I am not a student at Brown). There was no anti-Semitic sentiment in the organization at all. In fact, many of the members are Jewish. I am not anti-Semitic. In fact, I am engaged to a Jewish woman. I don't wish ill against the state of Israel nor against Jews in general. I do, however, find the actions of the zionist Israeli government against the civilian population of Palestine to be utterly reprehensible and unacceptable, particularly as a tax payer of a government that funds such atrocities.

    The notion that one has to be anti-Semitic to oppose the Israeli actions in Palestine is false.
     
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    And a tiny number of anti-Israel voices among the Occupy Boston does not warrant the title of this thread 'OB takes Israeli Consulate', right?

    It's the same fringe group of anti-Israel zealots that join any movement to promote their one-issue agenda. They destroyed the anti-Iraq war protests, they are destroying the OWS movement now. They are certainly not 99%, just a tiny number of Israel-obsessed leeches who attach themselves to every movement which usually have nothing to do with Israel and suck the blood out of it.
     
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    Your assertion is pure propaganda. You make false blanket statements and generalizations that are only aimed at marginalizing the impact of a movement opposed to the fascist Zionist state that you support. You clearly don't know what you are talking about. From my own experience being actively involved in the BSJP organization, I know you have it completely backwards. In fact, I was introduced to the BSJP movement through activity in a local general anti-war and occupation movement. Most of the people I know that are involved in the various justice for Palestine organizations are involved in many other pro-human rights and anti-war organizations and it is simply natural for such minded people to support to the end to Israeli apartheid against the Palestinian people.
     
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    These occupy wall street protesters have gotten out of control. They need to be stopped. They say the tea parties were worse? At least we didn't drag our kids into it, and brainwash them. The fact that they would even retaliate against an alliance with Israel is ridiculous. Israel has one of the strongest military's in the world. Would your rather be with them or against them? Because I'm pretty sure I'd like to be on the good side of any country that posses nuclear weapons. It's all just common sense people.
     
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    This post is rife with misunderstanding. The protesters aren't protesting an alliance with Israel. It is protesting the use of American tax payer dollars in supporting the war crimes perpetrated by Israel against the Palestinian people.

    If Iran suddenly developed nuclear weapons, would you support a US alliance with Iran? In fact, your philosophy, which is that the US should ally with any country that has a strong military and nuclear weapons, would lend itself to creating further incentive for countries to develop nuclear weapons. It would be a preposterous policy for the US to hold.

    Israel is and should continue to be an economic partner of the US, only when they stop waging apartheid and collective punishment against the people of Palestine, reverse their policy of expansion via the use of illegal settlements, and legitimately seek a peace which allows for the Palestinian people to self determination.
     
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    Right... and what exactly does it all have to do with the OWS movement? The answer is obvious, absolutely nothing, the OWS movement (whether you agree with them or not) is about social and economic inequality, corporate greed, corruption and influence over government—particularly from the financial services sector—and lobbyists. The protesters' slogan, "We are the 99%", refers to the difference in wealth and income growth in the U.S. between the wealthiest 1% and the rest of the population.

    The OWS movement has nothing to do with the US foreign policy, yet the fringe one-issue Israel-hating leeches are right there, trying shamelessly to caplitalize on the movement's exposure and media coverage while sucking the blood out of it and destroying it from inside.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd1uO29UWzY"]Occupy Boston Occupies Israeli Consulate - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    here is the o7 tubing


    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJJ4zKQBcf8"]Protest At Israeli Consulate in Boston, March 15 07 - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    anyone notice how the bigots harm and beat people when going against the pigs


    listen to the quote: 'you have no right to live'

    that is bigots harming civilians
     
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    Your entire premise is based on a false assumption which you state as fact. Of course the issue of Israel and US foreign policy is relevant to the OWS movement. The OWS movement, among other issues, is directly aimed at the influence of big business upon the US government. US policy towards Israel is largely influenced and driven by the money that is given to the Israeli government that ultimately ends in the hands of multinational corporate interests such as Caterpillar, Motorola, Lockheed Martin, etc. In fact, to anyone that sees beyond the false divide and conquer dichotomy of Jews vs. Muslims, it is quite apparent that the winner in prolonging the conflict between Israel and Palestine is the international corporate oligarchy, not the Israelis nor the Palestinians. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a symptom of the greater global corporate oligarchy disease. It is absolutely relevant to the OWS movement and the notion that people that are against the Israeli occupation of Palestine are single issue minded is laughable.
     
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    Seems they were encouraged to do so by the Emergency Shelter Commission and the government.

    Is it your contention that homeless people, or those in need of food and showers, don't have a right to protest?
     
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    Anti-Semitic Anti-Zionist Bigotry is now fully a Far Left & Middle Left thing
     
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    It is my contention most of these folks have homes but dont want to go there ,lest they look like bad advocates. There are truly destitute folks in Boston who could care less about spending the day protesting,who need these resources instead of whining college kids who dont want to travel too far away from their tent city.
     
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    A symbolic gesture, I hope Netanyahu learned of this. Not only have thousands of protesters in Israel have protested against their governments conduct, now citizens of their strongest ally are protesting against them.

    Whether Netanyahu and his friends and supporters act to change their conduct for the better, or for the worse is yet to be seen. If a war with Iran is ignited by Israel, then we'll have the answer.

    People may criticise the protesters for various different reasons, but at least they are applying pressure on a system which repeatedly fails the poor to such an extent lives are lost as a direct result of living conditions, while the rich weather the storm with their accumulated wealth, influencing the system to forever favour them and put the poor voters of their democracy last, things can only get worse or stay bad.

    There needs to be a public voice against this behaviour. People, especially poor people have little to lose in most cases, their voice, their freedom to expression is all they have left, and that's meant to mean something in our democratic nations, or is it?

    If people are going to assume control over great masses of other people, and do so claiming to have a legitimate democratic reason for being in that position, then they should behave as leaders of a democracy and not of a corporate police state autocracy that our democracies are currently pushing towards. Our ruling politicians and the ruling elite they're associated with are trying to change our perception on democracy, so that the metaphorical rug of democracy can be pulled from beneath our feet, so that one day we'll all wake up in a faux left leaning police state.
     
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    You must mean since the list that is circulating around that the OWS is antisemtic is nature?

    The same list that also has Soro's as a person who is funding this "event" who is Jewish? That what you mean?

    I've seen that list..its a joke.

    Or maybe since the Neo Con's have taken over the GOP have now the GOP are on a blood thirty mission of Empire building at the what appears to be the behest of Israel?

    This is a quote from the neoconservative page, I find it "interesting" I am sure you support it also.

    My only comment would be, if this is how you really feel, suit up, pack up, and go over there. Leave the USA out of your demented nightmares.

    The best part of that quote, is they just leave it open ended like that, its not qualified with anything, its just "incorrect" I am sure most trolling American's buy this garbage too, as I am sure YOU are going to defend it in your next post. :)

    and I reject your claim that anything critical of Israel is automatically being a bigoted, I find that just a lack of intelligence on your part for understanding the bigger issue at stake here.
     
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    I feel your pain, Bosco, but you know as well as I do that Ron Paul won't get elected president. The best you can hope for is that he'll be appointed to some senior position within a Republican administration where he will have an opportunity to do something about the problems you mentioned. Failing that, I wish you well abroad, not that you're going to find the Land of Ludwig von Mises and F.A. Hayek anywhere on this planet.

    As for the OccuCommies, they haven't been hijacked - they are what they always have been. The public just doesn't know any better, and the media is running interference for them...
     
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    The OWS /99%ers are Anti- Semites & Anti-Zionist Bigots , Even the Jewish (Non practising ) ones like George Tsuros lol
     
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    Actually, the far-right extreme commonly waves the Israeli flag while using the anti-Semite card against everyone who doesn't hate any semites, as demonstrated with their silly slurs against OWS. The problem is not that OWS is not against any Semites, but rather that the fact that the far-right extreme misuses and abuses Jews to condemn those who don't hate them. You'll find that the much far right extreme doesn't give a hoot about Jews, but that they'll go out of their way to oppose those who don't hate them. Thus, your efforts are demonstrating the new Israel-far-right alliance against everyone who does not hate Semites.
     

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