UPDATED– ‘Occupy Boston’ Takes Israeli Consulate

Yes I do.

You go on tirade trying to link the occupy movement ,to Israel to American corporate profiteering.....your position is less than subtle.

So who is? Imaginary cabals in the legal,entertainment,energy and banking industries.

 

I see no effort or attempt to acknowledge there are Govt provocateurs in the movement, off duty police, at least we know in Oakland, and it makes perfect sense you would have undercover but it begs to reason are they not there doing more?

You're assuming everything at face value. That's laughable.

Pick a source, so many to choose from.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...A&q=OWS+provocateurs&spell=1&biw=1280&bih=655

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No, you clearly don't.

No, my position is not subtle. However, you seem to misunderstand, deliberately or otherwise. I did not claim that the corporate oligarchy that the OWS movement is standing against is controlled by Israel nor by Jews. I states that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is a means by which the corporate oligarchy transfers US taxpayer dollars into corporate coffers. I stand by that assertion.

There is nothing imaginary about the influence of multinational interests upon national governments. National governments are a tool used to promote a big government for big business agenda. The proliferation of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is but one example of this, and is thus relevant to the OWS movement.

 

This is not subtle indeed, this is patently absurd. Israel helps keep american military industry afloat, one of the last american industries that have not been outsourced yet. Tens of billions of Israeli dollars flow into american companies every year and yes of course, the companies make a profit on these transactions...and tens (or hundreds) of thousands of americans are gainfully employed due to the Israeli business.

 

Well by all means, we should keep the Israeli-Palestinian conflict going, then...

 

My turn..yes I clearly do.

Sorry. This conflict has little impact on the "corporate coffers". It is the US that is at the forefront of each and every attempt to end it. Its is Arab rejectionsim that prolongs it. Iraq and Afghanistan..sure the profiteering is blatant...Jews and Arabs not so much. What the US donates to Israel each year is small potatoes and anyone wishing to make a larger issue about it than it really is runs the danger of looking like a racist....and I stand by that assertion.

Who disputes the govts decision making in regards to national policy is far too reliant of the whims of corporate interests? The issue is with your conspiritous claims of racketeering, severe political generalizations and your willingness to give credit where it is not due.

Big government is a product of a big society with big issues. Bloated government is a product of the horse getting out of the barn.

 

Nope. It's high time for the Arab world to recognize that Israel is there to stay as a jewish democratic state and make peace with it on realistic terms - no right of return and secure defensible borders.

And it's time for you to recognize that these one-issue fringe anti-Israel groups do huge disservice to movements they shamelessly try to exploit, in this specific case they are attacking a country and an ally that does buy American.

 

Yet, in your own words, this would mean that the US war industry would collapse and millions of Americans would lose their jobs.

 

How so? 3 billion a year in military toys is nothing.

 

It would not collapse but it would undoubtedly shrink and tens of thousands of Americans would lose their high-paying middle-class jobs. If a country stops buying tens of billions of dollars of american goods and services, the profits of american companies and their headcounts decrease. Come on, it's such a simple concept that even you should not have any problem grasping it.

 

I think you are overestimating how much hardware Israel actually "buys".

They have a pretty sound in house program.

 

This means that Israel does not have the economic impact on the US that Borat claims it to have.

 

I claimed that Israel makes a substantial positive impact on the US economy as it buys billions of dollars of american military equipment. The claim still stands.

 

Shows how focused this idiotic campaign is. So much for this having to do with the 99%.

 

Not in my opinion. 40-50 billion a year in US arms sales to a long list of non Israeli consumers.