Utah's Westminster College offers 'Porn' class where students will watch pornographic films together

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  1. James California

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    ~ The Supreme Court also cannot define " woman" .
     
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    Ok, we seem to have a problem with communication across the 10,000 km that separate us….let me make a few points clear…

    1. I’m no homophobe. What I’m doing is shining a light on those who are…and those who adopt an hypocritical stance towards the issue…like Crawford and his ilk.
    2. He belongs to a group who routinely do discriminate against others on the basis of their sexuality. And this discrimination is often rooted in nothing more than the outward appearance and behaviours that others display…like dressing in drag.
    3. And you’re wrong about the Bible. Like most atheists, I’ve studied it quite widely. It proscribes the act of a man “wearing the cloak of a woman” as it is “an abomination before God”. Now, you can get picky and complain that Crawford was wearing a nice camisole and bra, not a “cloak”, but is that where you want to go…?

    I don’t care that he had pictures taken in drag…he can ride down the Main Street, naked on a bicycle, wearing a bride’s veil and singing Nessun Dorma….no complaint from me…
    I don’t care that he is a supposedly avowed Christian who trashes his faith…the world is full of ‘em…

    What gets me is the holier-than-thou hypocrisy of people like him…
     
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    Yes it does…read it.
     
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    "Utah's Westminster College offers 'Porn' class where students will 'watch pornographic films together"


    Isn't what XXX adult theaters are for? And the cost is less.​
     
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    Has that come before the Court?
     
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    The article laid it out pretty well. Pornography is among the most widely consumed material in America (and many other societies). The internet makes it more available to more people than ever before. Studying this makes as much sense as studying any other widesperad cultural phenomenon. In fact, given the potential impact of pornography on intimate personal relationships it makes more sense to study this than many other subjects.

    No degradation here, just people trying to understand their own society. I suppose some people find that threatening or disturbing or....something.
     
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    A better question to ask would be “what is the socio-political implications of conservative men who enjoy being dominated by black woman?”. Which is an actual phenomenon. Conservatives for some reason really like being stepped on by black women.
     
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    Kuka mundo - goonie goo goo .. Got some kind of Sado Masico racial sexual thing going on mate. .. projecting out into the world cause misery loves company !?
     
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    Actually no. It’s an actual social fact. Conservatives like the idea of being dominated by someone of a different race more than their liberal counterparts. The more you know.
     
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    Spare me the statistical satire -- a whole lot which we saw out of Blue during Covid -- the Biden Fauci Clownshow .. bad science/ bad statistics up da yang don't ya know ..

    "the more you know" .. ya mon . every once in a while you run into someone who does know .. a thing or two .. more than you. ...
     
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    And in a thread that requires people assume education is worthwhile, we sometimes have posters who do not think education is worthwhile, and their arguments are a reflection of such position.

    If you don’t understand basic statistics then perhaps discussing college level classes might be something out of your reach. Otherwise you’re going to be made fun of.
     
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    Seems some want to go back to J Edgar Hoover style.

    Seems some people can't keep their nose out of others.
     
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    You missed the punchline mate .. is you who does not understand basic statistics -- your post a demonstration of that fact.

    Tell me "The Stats" how many republicans per 100,000 enjoy the Sado/masico sexual dominance .. vs Democrats .. and never mind that feeling that you are being squeezed like a pimple .. unless you have had no statistical training in which case you wouldn't notice :)
     
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    No, you didn’t ask for a source. You just said “stats are bad because COVID”. So once again, you don’t seem to understand your own argument. But if you want a source…

    “When you crunch the numbers of all red states vs. blue states (strong or leaning), it seems that users in red states are more inclined to search for cuck videos.”
    https://www.phillyvoice.com/phub-search-red-vs-blue/amp/
    Though if you’re asking for BDSM specifically? Not what I claimed.
     
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    I did not say "Stats are bad because COVID" seems your reading skills are as bad as your statistical understanding.

    Then you provide a source .. which is good -- but don't cite from that source any stats to back up your claim .. Where is the rate per 100,000 .. or some statistical comparison of some sort where-by one can asses how many people we are talking about..

    Then when I go to the link .. there is no such information .. only some ranking by state.. which is useless from a statistical perspective .. doubling down on the apparent reality that Mr "You don't know Stats" .. doesn't know stats.

    Don't care what kind of perversity we are measuring .. what ever one you were talking about .. Domination by black women or some such desire ..

    How many per 100,000 ?
     
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    You are the one who brought COVID into this, not me. You are the one who is doubting statistics. And I don’t have to prove to your specification. I just have to prove a reasonable standard, and reasonable standards are citing the conclusion of the stats. We use state voting patterns to interfere political preferences in stats. Don’t like it? Too bad. We also know that conservatives are more likely to search for gay porn more than their liberal counterparts. The simple fact is, I have shown enough. Conservatives are turned on by being racially dominated.
     
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    You don't think that there are women who are negatively affected by partners who do watch it? Again, I'm not against porn in the least. But to suggest that it only affects those watching it is naive.
     
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    we are not talking about Covid - brought it up as an example of other bad blue stats.

    You are supposed to be supporting your claim that Republicans have some high propensity to engate in being dominated by black women.. we can discuss that "Bad Science - Bad Stats" engaged in by Blue w/r to covid .. but this has nothing to do with your unsupported claim about Republicans.

    How much more likely to search for gay porn .. you double down on your unsupported claim - after trying to deflect to Covid - claiming you have shown some Stats that support this nonsense claim ... going to show that Mr. "you don't know about stats" .. doesn't know about stats.

    Squeezed like pimple you have been .. and now you run from the playground .. spewing false nonsense .. as you have given no numbers showing how many conservatives are turned on by being racially dominated.. only think you have shown thusfar is a lack of knowledge of statistics...and a high propensity for fallacy and unsupported claims . coupled with pretending to be somthing you are not.
     
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    You bring up COVID, which we know is underreported. The stats are pretty accurate regarding COVID. And yet you say they’re inaccurate because “blue states”. Now I have cited red states search for being cucked more than blue states in a manner that is widely accepted as a good way of doing things. Then you demand a per capita of 100,00. Without explaining why you want that standard. Per capita can work if the subject matter is something residents might not hide or lie about. Porn isn’t one of those reasons. Now I can go ahead and once again statistically show conservatives watch more gay porn than liberals. But I don’t think you will be able to engage with them if you have a pattern of dismissing without good reason. So guess what? As far as I am concerned, I have enough proof. And you can’t prove your claim.

    “The Daily Dot reports that Mississippi ranked third (behind Washington, D.C., and New York) in a recent PornHub survey on the amount of porn consumed by state. The Magnolia State, in particular, shows a disproportionate preference for black gay porn, while the South boasted three of the top five states with the highest rate of gay porn viewership.”
    https://www.salon.com/2016/05/21/th...lead_the_nation_in_same_sex_porn_consumption/
     
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    I have, cover to cover, more than once. Book, chapter and verse, please.
     
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    So, I assume, then, both of you also feel it is a mistake for those who are majoring in comparative religion, to study Satanism?
     
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    I'd be curious to hear more about that. The law certainly includes the idea of "pornography," in laws involving, "pornographic material," or has this terminology been required to be changed? Are there still "child pornography," laws, or are they now called something else?
     
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    @Kranes56 . Thanks for the links to the informative articles. I have SNIPPED them below, as trying to discuss facts w/ @Giftedone , without the evidence at hand, is a pointless exercise, as I think you have been finding to be true.

    While there is not proof of your original claim, about black female domination, there is still ample evidence of Red State religious & political hypocrisy, repression, and stupidity.


    https://www.phillyvoice.com/phub-search-red-vs-blue/amp/

    Mississippi and North Carolina recently passed some of the harshest laws in the nation targeting the LGBT community. As statistics from PornHub show, congressmen might be legislating against queer and trans people, but their constituencies sure do love to watch them have sex...

    When you crunch the numbers of all red states vs. blue states (strong or leaning), it seems that users in red states are more inclined to search for cuck videos. Overall, on average, it was the 26th most popular search in red states while in blue states, it came in 29th. So, glass houses and all that, I guess.

    Below is the overall list with state-by-state rankings:

    Most-searches by state:

    West Virginia (leaning red)

    New Hampshire (leaning red)

    Kentucky (in play)

    Alabama (solid red)

    Vermont (solid blue)

    Least-searches by state:

    California (solid blue)

    Oklahoma (solid red)

    Nebraska (leaning red)

    South Dakota (solid red)

    Hawaii (solid blue)
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    For the curious, a "cuck" video describes a situation in which the woman has sex with other men, generally in front of her insignificant other. The reason the researcher looked into this, was because that was a term which Republican politicians, incredibly, were using to insult male Democrats. As this is a very emasculating image, though, it is understandable why the Right might seize upon it: the things that one finds most insulting towards others, are precisely the things that the insulter, himself, would find most offensive; IOW, because they would find having their own masculinity challenged, to be such a mortifying attack, is why these men would be more inclined to use that form of insult. Also, of course, it could be extrapolated that the insulter felt that others in their state or district would have similar sensibilities, and so sensitivities, to insinuations of someone's lack of "manliness."


    The next article you linked, gave a reasonable explanation for the Red State contradictions.

    https://www.salon.com/2016/05/21/th...lead_the_nation_in_same_sex_porn_consumption/


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    This blatant hypocrisy is just the latest example of the worst-kept secret about conservative states: They really like porn, whether it’s gay, straight, or everything in between. Numerous studies prior to the PornHub survey have resulted in similar findings, and it’s worth asking the question: Why are red states keeping their hands to themselves? The simple answer might be sexual repression in a culture of abstinence-only education, but these rates also speak to the wider lack of affirming resources for people to explore what they like. Many cities and areas of the country don’t have a gay bar, let alone a visible LGBT community, meaning that their Web browser is forced to provide the connection they lack elsewhere.

    Queerness has found ways to survive in some of the most repressive areas of the country for decades, often by living a kind of double life. In the seminal 1970s book “Tearoom Trade,” sociologist Laud Humphreys discusses the culture of underground sex that takes place in public restrooms and rest stops, often referred to as “tearoom sex.” In interviewing men looking for casual hookups in the relative privacy of public places, he found something surprising: A majority (54 percent) were married, and many were religious. Two men were even members of the John Birch Society, the extremist right-wing organization founded during the Red Scare of the 1950s. Humphrey writes that he had ‘‘the impression that ‘the Bible on the table and the flag upon the wall’ may be signs of secret deviance more than of ‘right thinking.’’’

    In the decades since, the link between ideological conservatism and cloaking one’s innermost desires has abated little, but today most of that action takes place behind a computer, not in a bathhouse. A 2009 study from the Harvard Business School’s Benjamin Edelman found that “eight of the top 10 pornography-consuming states gave their electoral votes to John McCain in last year’s presidential election.” Research also showed that the 27 states that passed a wave of resolutions adding marriage bans to their constitutions in the mid-2000s consumed 11 percent more pornography than those that didn’t. Utah, the Mormon stronghold and fourth-most conservative state in America, placed at the top of the porn subscription heap.

    The evidence on this subject is fairly overwhelming. Yet another study, this time from Cara MacInnis and Gordon Hodson in Archives of Sexual Behavior, in 2014 found that “red light states,” as Edelman called them, have higher rates of Google searches for “sex.” This isn’t just true of gay sex; those surveyed by MacInnis and Hodson were interested in all kinds of intercourse, which led the researchers to conclude that these searches had an educational component. “At minimum, these internet-search data clearly demonstrate,” the pair argued, “that those living in states with greater proportions of very religious or conservative citizenry nonetheless seek out and experience the forbidden fruit of sexuality in private settings.”

    It’s easy to understand why: Those with a culturally conservative background may have no other means to explore their preferences. According to the Guttmacher Institute, 37 states currently mandate that their public school curricula teach abstinence-only sex education, meaning that youth are given few very resources when it comes to navigating intimacy. By the first time they have sex, just over a third of young people will have been shown how to use a condom in health class. Lacking appropriate, detailed information on the subject of intercourse, middle- and high-school students (and even adults) might have few other options than to turn to the Internet—which, for the record, is a very shoddy substitute for the classroom.
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    Sigh...Deuteronomy 22:5
     
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    Yup, for some reason I thought I could find the video that made that claim. Sorry, wasn’t able to do that one specifically. But it is certainly true that a lot of people who watch pornography are conservatives.
     
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