Very strange that the same hospital demanding I wear a mask tomorrow ...

Is the same hospital that gave me the vaccine shots and they gave me a card saying I am vaccinated by them using the Pfizer vaccine.

I pressed them as to why Why on earth they want a protected person, me in other words to show up wearing a mask?

Are others having the same experience?

Here is my key premise. Is the vaccine working or not?

 

Did they give you an answer as to why?

 

Did they give you the false impression that your being vaccinated was 100% protection and that you might be exposed to a number of diseases, including COVID, in the hospital?

 

Exactly!....Then the people who have gotten vaccine think they cant get it or spread it! Your odds of not being hospitalized is greatly reduced, but then again, you would have to read and follow whats going on week to week.........Just like how this Delta variant is growing exponentially!

 

Seems like a bait & switch. They gave a false impression that people getting vaccinated would allow them to stop having to wear the hated mask.

Then right after everyone got it, they made sure to clearly point out that wasn't quite true. "Thank you for getting the vaccine, but you have to keep practicing the safety protocols"

 

Show any reputable study that supports your assertion. And no.. CNN news anchors don't count...

 

Why so lazy.......Mr. expert on everything....I can find thousands of links!





COVID-19
Common question
Can you get Covid-19 if you are vaccinated?

Experts say vaccination doesn't mean you're completely protected from developing COVID-19. “Although the chance of contracting COVID-19 is low once an individual has been vaccinated, it is not zero,” Teresa Murray Amato, MD, chair of emergency medicine at Long Island Jewish Forest Hills in New York, told Healthline.5 days ago

Do You Need to Wear a Mask If You're Vaccinated Against COVID-19? - Healthlin

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Can Vaccinated People Transmit COVID-19 to Others?
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/can-vaccinated-people-transmit-covid-19-to-others/
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Can You Get A Covid Infection After Being Vaccinated?
The vaccines for Covid are highly effective in preventing disease, with some >90% effective, and around one third of the U.S. population has been vaccinated. Are we seeing the light at the end of the tunnel that we have all been waiting for? I like to think so, but not so fast. I am by nature a bit of a pessimist. And there are reasons to be cautious – for one thing, while the new vaccines have proven to be very effective, the risk of infection remains, however small.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/corona...ction-after-being-vaccinated/?sh=227e68c3714a
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Wow that was ****ing hard....Use that Google machine so you can look brighter and ask better questions!

 

So the answer is no. No you can't cite a single study. I thought so. The ask was, cite a reputable study. You brought opinions and fake news. Brava.

 

Pathetic and lazy
Interim Estimates of Vaccine Effectiveness of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 COVID-19 Vaccines in Preventing SARS-CoV-2 Infection Among Health Care Personnel, First Responders, and Other Essential and Frontline Workers — Eight U.S. Locations, December 2020–March 2021
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm?s_cid=mm7013e3_w
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https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33301246/
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Told ya this was NEVER gonna end...

 

You might possibly get COVID but there's good odds it won't kill you if you had your shots.

https://news.yahoo.com/cdc-99-5-covid-19-162125960.html

 

I got a call later and was told it is just policy.

 

I am not in the hospital. I was notified of my AM appointment tomorrow. They called me back and I asked why wear a mask. They said it is policy.

 

I just looked at the website for our largest hospital group and they have the same policy.

 

Hasn't Biden been spreading that rumor?

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/02/bid...ericans-vaccinated-by-the-fourth-of-july.html

 

Makes one wonder what the huge deal the Democrats have made about being vaccinated.

 

My vaccination is top rated against the Delta Variant.

 

Not sure the hospitals are Democrats. Hospitals tend to err on the side of caution, better too much concern than not enough. My dermatologist still makes everyone where a mask, but my chiropractor does not

 

I never said the hospitals are run by Democrats.

I did ask the representative at the Hospital if this is life from now on. She said she does not know.

 

Ok, you copied and pasted this, where in the wall of text does this present the case that the vaccines are ineffective and thus require those who have been vaccinated to continue to act like they haven't been vaccinated at all? That was the task, and again, lazy is what you just did. Show the work. Cite the actual language that supports your assertion.

 

It's good to see you asking questions Robert.

No, the shots do not confer immunity. That has been demonstrated by mounds of data since it started.

The cynical view is that they were not intended to confer immunity, as they are not vaccines in the legal and medical senses of the word. You folks who've taken the experimental jabs are effectively test subjects, crash test dummies. Thousands have paid the ultimate price for their participation.

 

You obviously don't know much about science. It's not the purpose of a scientific study, quantitative assessment or journal article to dictate human behaviour. Their purpose is to provide scientific facts that may or may not inform policy.

 

And here is a perfect example of what I mean. Based on improved (but not perfect) outcomes of vaccination, the Australian government is considering trialing a reduced quarantine time from full two weeks at a dedicated facility to one week at home for those returning to Australia and who have been vaccinated.

 

The purpose of the mask is to help prevent transmission of covid. The vaccine would reduce the chance of contracting covid and also the severity of symptoms if you do. However, despite being vaccinated you still may be able to transmit the disease on, even if you don't have any symptoms.

Also worth noting is it still takes a few weeks after the second vaccine dose to have full immunity to the extent that the vaccine will bestow. If this is your first jab and it's only a couple of days later there will be little or no difference in your immunity.

I'm sure there are other factors, too. Hope that helps.

 

The ask was to document cases of vaccinated folks being dangerous to others because they could spread the disease. Of course, nothing has been presented so far that establishes that as a certainty. Why is it you folks still need your fear?