Very strange that the same hospital demanding I wear a mask tomorrow ...

The amazing thing is that for some, it doesn't matter that medicine created a vaccine. It's always been about controlling the public. All about fear and the use of fear to do so. Australia should be working harder to vaccinate their folks. And if y'all intend not to, stop the fear mongering.

 

I'm actually being generous and giving you more than what you're asking for.

As an individual level your ask is impossible. At a statistical level you just look at the efficacy of the particular vaccine.

So for a vaccine has 95% efficacy, based on an analysis of outcomes then 5% of those with that vaccine will still get Covid and thus still be considered potentially contagious (particularly if they have symptoms).

I can't imagine a study would have all of this discussion under one roof so to speak. Usually scientists and health professionals put together all the contemporary outcomes of many studies and then create policy from that. So perhaps what you're after is a policy document?

Finally, obtaining the raw data of a quality primary statistical study usually is behind a paywall. Just how it works. So you're asking someone potentially with university journal access to get you documents. A bit demanding!

Perhaps you can indulge a little bit and assume that when a w sources say e.g. pfizer is 95% effective then it's the truth. But you can always say it's a big conspiracy.

 

I would say it's an absolute opposite. We don't have enough fear because we don't have the community transmission and thousands dying. Our government hasn't made enough effort to source vaccines (again lack of fear and motivation) and, finally, with so few deaths the populace has been complacent about getting vaccinated.

So I kind of agree with you that management of fear is a problem, though. Either people are crazily panicking or they're not fearful enough! The government kind of responds to the collective consciousness rather than leads and anticipates like the enlightened adults they are meant to be.. I find this neglectful.

 

So, again, you're answer is no. You cannot provide any documentation of, study of, or any other useful data to support your assertion. It doesn't matter how many walls of text you paste in, you're still failing at that fundamental level.

 

Yes Dr luggit, I failed you. Truth is I can't really be bothered. I'm just on my phone here and it is easier to dictate text than go and search for journal articles for you. I have found you mostly unswayed by scientific evidence anyhow.

 

I got the last shot 2.5 months ago.

 

So you're very close to full immunity. I'm really glad to hear that.

It's probably difficult for the hospital to make different policy for different people in different situation, though. And some people might lie about their vaccinations status to get out of wearing a mask.

Personally, I think that if you're fully vaccinated I agree that different rules should apply. The devil's in the details of how you practically apply them.

 

I asked the doctor about it. He can't explain it other than hospital policy. He says he is sick and tired of wearing his mask.

 

Don't forget another purpose of journal articles, a purpose we've seen played royally during the last 18 months or before--to buttress official narratives and advertising brochures.

Doctors and scientists are mere mortals--they will write or say anything for financial compensation. Does that make them play actors? Stay tuned.

 

Fauci openly is pure politics.

 

I suggest the similar thing COPS ask for(ID and Insurance) so can the hospital. ID and Vaccination card.

 

because you can still catch Covid, your body will just be better able to fight it off before it becomes an issue

but others that may be going through chemo or other medical procedures may not be as protected

going to a hospital, not a place I would complain about wearing a mask to protect those in the hospital with weakened immune systems, ect...

 

There are large amounts of evidence that strongly suggest it (the entire Covid operation including the vaccines) is very much a conspiracy, going back decades.

 

The Trump vaccine was created by the GOP led govt. why is it now just the Dems?

 

I heard it was the wrath of God.

 

There is also a good chance it won't kill you if you haven't got the shots.

 

Did you hear that from Billy Graham?

 

Yeah, Billy and God both made the claim when they alit from Heaven in my bedroom.

 

I thought that might be the case.

 

We also played the game of Life.

 

Fine, but I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories. Some people have integrity.

 

I understand the only people who have died from COVID in the last six months are people who haven't got shots. When the penalty for failure is death I'd really think about it again.

 

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Your understanding is incorrect. 19% of vaccinated people who contracted COVID anyway have died.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

 

I can't find support for that statement in your CDC attachment.

 

Hospitalized or fatal vaccine breakthrough cases reported to CDC 5,186
Female 2,582 (50%)
People aged ≥65 years 3,903 (75%)
Asymptomatic infections 1,028 (20%)
Hospitalizations* 4,909 (95%)
Deaths† 988 (19%)
(Ibid)