VIDEO The religion of peace !!!!!!!!!!!

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  1. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Hitler said the same thing.
     
  2. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    All arab countries HATE the palestinians including Kuwait.
    The Islamic palestinian moaning is pathetic.
     
  3. dixon76710

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    Jews in general have no awareness of your existance and have no sentiments toward you whatsoever
     
  4. Marlowe

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    Now ONCE AGAIN - how abt getting back on topic and post something informative. ? :roll:
     
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    Id rather discuss the "topic" of YOUR post quoted within mine.
     
  6. free man

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    Do you calim we must not show Muslim huligans because they are Muslim ?
    I argue, we must expose them call them by what they are Huligans. Anybody who claims his religon requires him to act like that and desecrate other religon graves just is to be called by what he is a racist huligan.
    Anybody who stand by them, is a racist huligan as well.

    Am I clear enough ?

    Now I expected all the Muslims here to be the first to condemn them for using their god's name in vain and draging their relogon to the gutters, but since I see no condemnation, i guess the Muslims here think this is how a Muslim should act.

    Enough said.
     
  7. Jack Napier

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    What is a 'Huligan'?

    Is it a cross between the Hulk and a Bulgarian...:love:
     
  8. Face. Your

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    Only if the Nakhba occurred before Mohammad committed the first of many pogroms against Jews by Muslims when he slaughtered the Banu Jewish tribes of Arabia.



    Fake quote, the part about increasing the suffering of Jews has been added:

    One of my dreams during the period of uncertainty was to force Alois Lichtenstein, Schönerer or Lueger to a duel.

    If I had been shot, a letter left behind by me would have told the world that I fell a victim to to this most unjust movement. Thus my death might at least have improved the heads and hearts of men. But if I had shot my opponent, I wanted to make a magnificent speech before the assize court, first expressing my regrets at “the death of an honorable man,” like Mores who had stabbed Captain Mayer to death.

    Then I would have gone into the Jewish Question, making a powerful, Lassalle- like speech which would have shaken and moved the jury and inspired respect from the court, leading to my acquittal. Thereupon the Jews would have offered to make me a member of parliament. But I would have been obliged to decline that, because I did not want to become a representative of the people over the dead body of a human being. — And now I find that the anti-Semites are fully within their rights.

    It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites as liquidators of property. To the people they would vouch for the fact that we do not wish to bring about the impoverishment of the countries that we leave. At first they must not be given large fees for this; otherwise we shall spoil our instruments and make them despicable as “stooges of the Jews.

    Later their fees will increase, and in the end we shall have only Gentile officials in the countries from which we have emigrated. The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies.


    http://liberology.wordpress.com/201...zl-the-anti-semites-shall-be-our-best-friend/

    Care to provide a primary source for said quote? Your source clearly has no qualms about inventing (and by inventing I mean borrowing from anti-semitic websites) fake quotes.

    By cherry-picking a single comment, removing it from its context, and ignoring other comments made by Ben Gurion that directly contradict this interpretation, the author distorts history.

    The Ben Gurion quote is taken from comments he made to Mapai’s central committee on December 7, 1938. This followed Britain’s decision to deny entrance into Palestine of 10,000 German Jewish orphans in the wake of Kristallnacht, instead offering them asylum within Great Britain. It was almost a year before the Nazis launched World War II and several years before the Final Solution (to annihilate the Jews) was methodically implemented. While Ben Gurion believed that Germany’s anti-Jewish policies would necessitate creating a safe haven for numerous Jewish refugees that no other country was willing to accept, he had no way of predicting the enormity of what was to follow.

    The British offer to accept several thousand children appeared to be a gesture of conscience allowing Britain to close the doors of Palestine — not only to those German orphans, but to future refugees as well. Ben Gurion had recently witnessed the results of the international Evian conference, which had been convened in July 1938 to address the growing Jewish refugee problem, and knew that other countries were also unwilling to accept hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees. He believed that only a Jewish homeland would be able to properly absorb these Jews. Thus Ben Gurion stated that “our concern is not only the personal interest of these children, but the historic interest of the Jewish people” (translation from the stenographic records by Shabtai Teveth, Ben Gurion and the Holocaust, Harcourt Brace & Co. 1996, p. 47).

    According to the records of the Mapai meeting, Yitzchak Ben Zvi immediately clarified Ben Gurion’s brusque remark, explaining “ten thousand children are a small part of Germany’s [Jewish] children…They [the British] don’t intend to save Germany’s Jews, and certainly not all of them. The moment the Jewish State Plan [the Peel plan] was shelved, the possibility of complete rescue of Germany’s Jews was shelved with it.” (ibid. p. 48)

    There is ample evidence — ignored by Ignatiev — that Ben Gurion viewed the rescue of Jews as paramount. As early as 1936, Ben Gurion told Palestine’s high commissioner, Sir Arthur Wauchope, that “had there been the possiblity of bringing Poland’s Jews to the United States or Argentina, we would have done so regardless of our Zionist beliefs. But the world was closed to us. And had there also not been room for us in Palestine, our people would have had only one way out: to commit suicide” (Ben Gurion,Memoirs, p.3:105, cited in Shabtai Teveth, Ben Gurion and the Holocaust, pp xlix, 110). And in November 1941, Ben Gurion argued that “the supremely important thing now is salvage, and nation-building is incidental” (Teveth, ibid. p.xlviii).


    http://liberology.wordpress.com/201...es-1-ben-gurion-and-the-german-children-1938/
     
  9. Abu Sina

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    it's the moderators job to clear these rule violations off the boards

    this will help

    Flamebaiting.

    DELIBERATELY INFLAMING OTHERS IS NOT 'RESPECTFUL DEBATE'

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    it's hooligan

    here are some Israeli Jewish hooligans desecrating graves

    any comment?

    [video=youtube;SlRNyy95MdY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRNyy95MdY[/video]
     
  11. HBendor

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    Anti-Israel Media: Blaming Israel for a Hamas Murder! (VIDEO)
    Do you think for a moment that this should be taken into consideration?

    Watch this short clip.

    http://bit.ly/14fOvZT
     
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    The Israelis who sprayed grafiti on those 5 graves are huligans. They did what they did is secret because the whole society is against such actions.
    The Israeli police is looking for them.
    However the mass destruction of graves we just saw done by Muslims was done in broad day light, filmed to show their "brave" acts and their country does not look for them because destruction in the name of their "god" is the "right thing to do".

    No matter, no matter, the power of creation is stronger than the power of destruction. Those destroyers with their destroyer religion have already lost the war to the builders of humanity.
     
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    What is a huligan
     
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    You're entire judgement of Islam and the Arab people is based off of a subjective irrational logical fallacy. You're paranoia and hatred towards the Arab world is based only on illogic, disabling you from seeing the truth. Islamophobia is a hasty generalization.
     
  15. HBendor

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    Islam is the DESTROYER period... Go read the daily paper...

    There is approx. (more or less) 40 to 50 Million Muslims raping Europe at this stage.
    Watch what is happening in the Scandinavian countries where rape reign supreme.

    Go check what this horde of rapists murderers are doing under the aegis of Allah u Akbar...

    If you are not aware of that is perhaps you are too stingy to buy the Local Newspaper.

    Open the links on my signature to refresh your memory and bring you up to par with reality.
     
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    But then Jews are the most forceful backers of multiculturalism.
     
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    I have to admit that the video was pretty disturbing. I mean even the dead should be exempt from all this b.s.

    However I think that conventional Islam is not the cause. You will find some of the most unpleasant and uncivilised people in just about every corner of the earth.
    And these people will find some excuse to be bullies amongst their own people or foreigners.

    One of the things that I disapprove in my country is the presence of sharia courts. Although they don't necessarily override the crown court I still think that there should be one law for one land.
     
  18. HBendor

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    You haven't seen the beginning of it for the end is near... they want to fly the Muslim flag on <Parliament House> and with people like Richard Falk. G. Galloway, and Gerald Kaufman help, they might do that.
     
  19. Jack Napier

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    Very true.

    In anywhere save for Israel.

    Look, I even wanted to share the gifts with them....http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...ve-israel-so-much-i-wish-share-gift-them.html

    - - - Updated - - -

    Last time I heard someone say that, he was standing on a box, and people were just walking past...
     
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    And they never will, since they are for CIVIL issues, just as Jews have the same here, for their CIVIL issues.
     
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    Ok, well obviously I don't know everything about the legal system but I still want the same court to apply to everybody.
     
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    Funny you should mention Galloway. He's the MP for my area. I think he's an idiot.

    As for those lunatics that form demonstrations about establishing an Islamic state in Britain. Well their a very small number and I'm pretty sure MI5 (domestic intelligence) keeps tabs on them.
     
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    Please state reliable sources and a viable explanation behind "There is approx. (more or less) 40 to 50 Million Muslims raping Europe at this stage.
    Watch what is happening in the Scandinavian countries where rape reign supreme."

    Nope. How about you stop associating an entire religion with terrorism and start looking at the causes and motives behind terrorist acts. How about you stop looking at acts of Islamic terrorism as the result of a religious doctrine and see it as the result of extremist interpretations of a doctrine.

    Face the facts, newspapers sway the truth in the name of the owner's special interests on a daily basis.

    Look at reality; Muslims from the Middle East only turn to aggression with the justification of Islam because they are native to a region that is victim to so much political turmoil and chaos.

    Let's look at the facts. Islam is not the cause. You will find the violent, the vile, and ignorance-prone all over the earth. The motives behind terrorist acts are political and social pressures and reactionary interpretations of the faith; not Islam. Palestinian terrorism; retaliation against acts of Israeli oppression and aggression in the name of securing Palestinian freedom with violence. Al Qaeda; retaliation against Western influence and aggression with extremist ideas of Islamic Jihad. The Taliban; oppression due to following extremist reactionary interpretations of Islamic Sharia Law. You can look up the organizations and aggressive Arab movements for yourself and see the real motives behind their acts, it's no secret. Your Islamaphobic generalization is blinding. You just have to open your mind and look.
     
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    Blagh, Blagh, Blagh... your naivete is appalling... Apparently as long as your family is not touched you seem to reject reality.

    You sir, are not debating someone who does not know... I am a Jerusalemite born and bred, my parents are Jerusalemites, my Grands were Jerusalemites and before them my great Grands were Jerusalemites and my family is the result of the Spanish Inquisition... This said, I can tell you that I was raised with Arabs, I speak, read the Arabic language, I sat with Arabs in class rooms, I played with them soccer in the narrow streets of Jerusalem, in short I know Arabs and Muslim perhaps a little more than you do... Respect them and suspect them is the word for they will stab anyone in the back who does not observe their cult...Your ideology towards the offenders can only be considered immature and without any experience... I have no interest to lie, I consider myself a messenger on an advisory mission and nothing else.

    I can post here a lot of links if you want it that would illustrate and substantiatethe devilish actions of Islam.
    Their book tells you point blanc 'kill the infidels'!..
     
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    Here is a post, I wrote a few years back that might emphasize what I mean.

    Beggars cannot be choosers

    Israel has no problem with the Muslim world&#8230; (1,2 Billion)

    Israel has a problem with 350 million Arabs (in 22 Arab States) that are slowly encroaching on the Land of Israel from Time Immemorial.

    The Arab &#8216;desiderata&#8217; in fact their personal thinking, their deep seated conviction and their personal opinions is identical to those &#8216;Jew Haters&#8217; populating this board&#8230; Quantity over quality!

    They believe that any transgression from their part emboldened as it is , any impingement, any infringement on a Jewish minority with the intention of eroding their resolve is permissible and has the &#8216;automatic&#8217; approbation of the Muslim world at large&#8230; Nothing is further than the truth&#8230;

    Israel trades with the Muslim world, Israel is at Peace with the artificial State of Jordan that sits on 77% of the &#8216;Mandate for Palestine&#8217;, has given Egypt the Sinai [which BTW was not all theirs] (a vast empty expanse with &#8216;oil finds&#8217; that they had discovered and developed, Jewish Archeological sites from the time of the exodus) etc., all of that for the sake of Peace.

    Part of this &#8216;ancient Land of Israel&#8217; is today governed by the original descendants of its ancient inhabitants&#8230; the Jews of lore&#8230;

    This land is being broached and trespassed by Arabs that have illegally infiltrated from the surrounding Arab countries with the intention of seeking work to sustain themselves, make a living that was not possible in their original countries (see 30 million undocumented Aliens in the US)&#8230;

    Besides identifying themselves as &#8216;Palestinians&#8217; seemed to have been a curse rather than a balm, the so called &#8216;Palestinians&#8217; in Lebanon are an eye sore with the Lebanese people who refuse to integrate them&#8230; 350,000 of them were thrown out of Kuwait because of their allegiance to Saddam Hussein (Iraq) who conquered Kuwait and was beaten back&#8230;

    In the fall of 1990&#8230; 70,000 so called &#8216;Palestinians&#8217; were also asked to leave S. Arabia together with repatriation of 2 Million Arabs of Yemeni extraction including hundreds of thousands who lived there before the creation of S. Arabia itself in the 19th century as King Fahd of S. Arabia was indignant over Yemeni Ali Abdullah Saleh&#8217;s sympathies for the departed Saddam Hussein.

    All of that was done without provoking any international outrage and no daily excoriation from the Media&#8230; as hardly anyone raised as much as an eyebrow.

    The reason of this retort is to emphasize once more the &#8216;ingrained Hate against a minute Minority&#8217; of Jews reclaiming their Patrimony And any suggestion of repatriating the Jordanian Arabs holding Passports and IDs of Jordan is labeled &#8216;ethnic cleansing&#8217;&#8230;
     

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