Viktor Orbán, Defender of Christianity

Orban is defending his country.

 

the title of the thread
Viktor Orbán, Defender of Christianity"

 

Yes, Christianity is an essential part of Hungary's history, culture, and national identity. Defending Hungary and defending Christianity cannot be separated.

 

Oh so defending a country or a culture mean defending Christianity to you?

Fortunately for me, Jesus Christ built his Church on the Rock ( Faith) that is beyond any country or any culture. That faith has no geographical or cultural limit, that faith breaks through any limitation of culture or race or regional boundary and bring every sheep from around the world, Jews or Gentiles to the church.


I put my trust on Jesus Christ the Son of God and not a man or culture or a history of a country.

 

I'm a "lefty" and my children love this country but don't see it threw rose colored glasses, as you wish, they also enjoy all the various ethnicities our country has to offer, so you don't know what you are talking about.
Orban is a Christian nationalist which is antithetical to what America stands for.

 

Christianity doesn't need man's help but nations do. Orban is protecting his nation and that involves insuring Christiaanity is the base of Hungary's survival.

 

I know exactly what I'm talking about, and so does Orban.

 

Then your title should say Orban is defending Hungary

 

Or Orban is defending Hungry from those who are not Christian.

 

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When necessary. Hungary has a long and painful history with Islam, so yeah keep them out.

 

Yes, we know what you are talking about.

And don't forget them nasty Jews.

 

Nah, it's the nasty leftists that have to be kept out. Top of the list,, George Soros.

 

While Jesus was having dinner at Levi’s house, many tax collectors and sinners were eating with him and his disciples, for there were many who followed him. 16 When the teachers of the law who were Pharisees saw him eating with the sinners and tax collectors, they asked his disciples: “Why does he eat with tax collectors and sinners?”

17 On hearing this, Jesus said to them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”


Christ died on the cross for those nasty lefties.

 

Yep, and calls sinners to repent. "Go, and sin no more."

 

Well Christ died on the cross for these sinners so he has the right to tell them “ go sin no more’.

But a sinner like myself who is saved by grace, quoting scripture like “ go sin no more”, is nothing but hypocrisy. I have enough speck in my eyes to tell others “ go sin no more”

As I wrote in early post in this thread, Christianity is dying in the west because Christian in the west forgot how to love the sinner and bring people to Christ. Their hatred toward non-believer is equivalent to Pharisees in Jesus time.

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.”

 

Uber Jew!

 

Uber leftist with a global agenda. Stay out of Hungary.

 

That doesn't make any sense. Culture and 'race' (ethnicity) are two very distinct things. Reinforcing cultural homogeny isn't racist so long as it is ethnically inclusive, which Hungary is.

 

Thank you.

 

So, a white nationalist or racist doesn't agree with what he said?

 

A racist would either be opposed to including 'lesser races' in their society, or support oppressing 'lesser races' in their society. Hungary is inclusive to all 'races' and treats them as equals, so long as they assimilate to Hungarian culture. Thats not racism. I like to call it 'culturism', but I've recently found out that word actually means something else... so maybe 'cultural supremacy'? That's prolly close enough to be accurate, so long as it doesn't assume the 'supremacy' part indicates a desire to forcefully spread the culture and/or irradicate other cultures, as 'supremacy' is sometimes used to indicate. Hungary doesn't seem interested in that either. Maybe 'culturally exclusive' would be a more accurate term.

 

I wouldn't know what a white nationalist or racist would agree with. Why don;t you tell us since you're the one making the accusattion. Tell us exactly what you mean.

 

The gospel of Jesus Christ was a local Jewish religion. So it could be argued that it was cut off from its roots two thousand years ago, following the murders of Jesus Christ and those who established it. And used to conquer the world in Gods name. Jesus didn't form an army to spread his message. Men did that in unification with the official Church of man. As there is one Christ and one Gospel, then Christianity wouldn't be divided into tens of thousands of differing denominations, with no two alike. So the Bible, rather than justifying this chaos, stands in testimony against it. It's reasonable to conclude from this that his judgments are coming upon the world by our own presumptuousness, and not just on the openly wicked. I'm not putting down Christian values. Just saying that each person should find and stand on holy ground or truth rather than identify with an image. Things are changing quickly.

 

Ooh what if they don't "assimilate" and by whose standards? Will they be sent to an assimilation camp? Supremacy sounds about the right label holding Hungarian culture in its status, people of other cultures must leave theirs and act Hungarian or they are unwelcome, I don't know how an American can root for that and not be a white nationalist or racist.

 

Nothing like that is necessary. They're picky about who they let move there. No 'camps' required.

Again, you're conflating race with culture. Culture is a choice. If you move to Hungary, you do as the Hungarians do. If you dont wanna, dont choose to move to Hungary.

You're not looking to move to Hungary, are you? Why do you care so much about Hungarian cultural policy? It only effects the people in Hungary...