Virginity is a social construct

so you guys can't be virgins or they can't lose their virginity?

wasn't about used merchandise it was about paternity. In fact after a bride was married if she had someone else's kid while married to her husband it was assumed it was the husband's child.

That's where the concept of a red-headed child being a problem came from. That's typically a recessive trait that they might not know is in their family.

 

Still don’t care.

 

well I read the op and it appeared to be talking about the use of language so I disagree.

whoever wrote what the billboard or the op?

Billboard is brainless all language is a social construct, languages completely and totally socially constructed so I don't see what it's saying other than an implication that this word should have as valuable of a meaning as it does. But I think it's more meaningful to the people who put up the billboard and it is to anyone else.

yeah namely the people's claiming it's just a social construct as though that means anything. Traffic code is a social construct but that's very important.

 

Why is it so important for you to tell me this?

 

the reason this thread exists, is because they do not understand what a "social construct" is, as if this behavior is genetic. like everything about civilization, if barbarians can not understand they mock and attempt to destroy.

genetically, a girl is ready to mate at her 1st period. modern attempts to extend adolescence are 100% social construct.

 

paternity and mileage are related questions.

the usage of "virgins" applied to incels and such is derogative rather than descriptive. iow a social construcy.

 

Virginity ISN'T important, but too many people still act as if it is. THAT is the point. I suspect you understand that but just want to quibble about minutia, as per usual. I'll leave you to it.

 

no it's pretty easy to understand what a social construct is. It is a contrivance or a apparatus constructed by society.

One could say the entirety of society is a social construct because it is.

It's just that people don't think social construct equals therefore meaningless. An example I'd like to give his traffic code that is a social construct and it is quite vital for our society.

well that's what saying something like virginity or gender is a social construct is about barbarians destroying it. When people use the phrase social construct they're not saying it's this useful tools society has built that was either useful at one time or still is. They're using it as a way to say that all things are questionable and to the degree that's true all things are questionable. But if the answer to the question is that this construct carries no weight or certain purpose because it was constructed by society that's barbarism.

A girl being ready to mate at her first period would mean whoever captured her not to meet with her. The concept of consensual sex is a social construct.

 

Virgin is sometimes seen as derogative to males because males are valued based on their virility. Continue to carry more sway with women because they were valued based on their purity.

 

I disagree I think it's other important when I met my partner assuming men can be virgins he was a virgin and assuming there's a such thing as gay virgin I was going to be the one that helped him lose it gay sex and I'm sure plain old vanilla sex can be intimidating to somebody who's never done it before. So did they tell you they're a virgin but you're not it's important too bring them into it gently and in the way where they will want it from you again.

If I married a guy who really wanted me to rock his world and he told me he was a virgin I would probably approach him with the gentle more plumbing apart from it would be unpleasant for him.

I think it's still a little more important than you want it to be or it's important to certain people just because it's not important to you doesn't mean that they are wrong you don't get to dictate to other people what they care about.

I think the problem is I'm correct and you know it so now you have to back down and also say face so you accuse me of quitting over the same initial you are.

 

It’s called a conversation. You’re familiar with how forums like this work, right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Not really a conversation. I get that you don't care and really need to tell me that for some reason.

Okay you don't care, I accept that. Seems the conversation is over. Unless there is some reason that's so important that you don't care or you r really want me to try and convince you that you should care.

I'm not interested.

 

Which just goes to show, that social constructs come in many forms, some which are quite reasonable and beneficial, and others which are simply silly, or even harmful.

 

And yet you’re always initiating conversations with me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Again, you misunderstand what’s going on.
The rebellion against traditional sex roles is not about the physical, but how they are conceived and applied.
The physical nature of virginity has been shrouded in grotesque layers of misogyny and male dominance and religious dogmatism since time began.
Young people today are starting to see the reality we have created in life and questioning what is real and what is important and what they can do about it.
It’s called freedom, and the natural consequence of our ideals, so why are rightwingers so apoplectic?

 

Perhaps I should stop.

 

Virginity is certainly a social construct. But it was born out of a need to make sure that a mans child was his back in the old days. That is why it was preferable that women are virgins. Back in the old days a man could not tell if a child was his for certain unless he wed a virgin. It helped with lines of succession.

Even in today's society men prefer virgins if they are planning to have kids, that way they know its their kid. Especially with the divorce rate as high as it is. This of course does not mean that men aren't horndogs and won't have sex with a promiscuous woman, just that they prefer virgins. Basically, if you ask a man who they would rather sleep with, a woman who's a virgin, or a woman who's slept with 500 guys...more often than not a man is going to say "virgin". Or even if its 50 men vs 500 men, the man is going to say "50".

Women actually are the opposite. They prefer men who've "slept around" as it means they have experience and are more likely to please them in bed than some guy that fumbles around not knowing what they are doing, sometimes causing them pain in the process.

This explains why men are more desirable with having slept with more women, and women are more desirable if they haven't slept around with men.

Note: There are always exceptions to the rule. The above does not apply to all men, or all women. This is just a generality. There will no doubt be challenges to this. Asking for proof etc etc. Denials also of course. Most won't admit that this is accurate because its "misogynistic" or "incel" thinking. Believe what you want. I'm not going to bother to defend it. Its just from my observations of history and a bit of psychology and understanding of humans. Does it matter to me if a woman I've slept with has a "low body count" or "a high body count"? Nope. But then again I've only been with two women my entire life (neither were virgins) and I do not plan to be with another for the rest of my life. In fact I prefer to stay single after my divorce as I have found my life is much less complicated. I certainly do not want to complicate it by accidentally getting some other woman pregnant. And once my kids are all grown up I only need to worry about myself for the most part (will always worry about the kids ). I love that idea. Gives a sense of freedom to do what I want, when I want rather than having to run it by the other half. Don't get me wrong, there are advantages to getting married (shared wealth gives less stress when the bills come around). Just not worth it imo.

 

these "traditions" or "customs" or even "habits" should be under constant review.

 

at first i thought this was a joke, but then i have read of the instance of young women who refrain from vaginal sex and participate in anal/oral sex to preserve their hymen....its probably aimed at them, to get them to think about it

 

Even if this alleged sign was real

WHO TF CARES.....?

WHY WOULD VIRGINITY BE AN ISSUE?

DO MEN PRIDE THEMSELVES ON THIER VIRGINITY? IS THAT THE "BIG" ISSUE?

WHAT TF ?

 

I wouldn't be upset

 

The link is irrelevant. It is incorrect when it suggests that sex is different to different people. Virgin means very specifically not having had sexual intercourse. If you want to say that oral sex takes away one's virtue, you could make that argument. However, oral sex does NOT take away one's state of never having had sexual intercourse.

You are making this more difficult than necessary (so is the link). There is a very specific definition of what constitutes a virgin. Stick with that definition and all confusion will be gone. It is incorrect to say that virginity is a social construct. If you want to say that the notion that one should be a virgin when married is a social construct then say just that. Calling virginity a social construct is conveying a different meaning.

Leave the dictionary alone.

 

I think its more about this concept that people can be anything they want and be in total denial. Where does it stop? Can murderers simply identify as INNOCENT? It just shows how silly everything is getting. It isn't really good for the future. Also, I bet the fact that they were NOT virgins probably made it much more fun!

 

Most murderers DO in fact identify as innocent and have been doing so since the beginning of time. Hasn't, nor ever will, hold much water.

 

I was talking to a priest once when I was contemplating marriage to a devout catholic girl and he tried to impress on me the unique benefits of having a monogamous relationship with a virgin.
He explained to me that when a man and a virgin marry, and the virgin stays faithful to her husband and they have frequent intercourse (like during a honeymoon), the virgin's vagina imprints on the man's penis and starts to conform to its shape. That way, if the man has a small dick, she conforms to it and it stops feeling small and if he has a huge dick, her vagina conforms to that and she doesn't hurt when having sex. And the man will feel like her vagina is a perfect fit. The more often they do it, the better it gets.
So it's in both their interest for a woman to be a virgin and only have sex with one man since they will both experience better sex as a result.
If the virgin has sex with several partners before settling down, her vagina tends to be an indeterminate shape and the sex will not be as exquisite for either partner.
Of course, he had nothing to say about the man porking multiple women, so it's probably another example of how virginity is a social construct designed to benefit a patriarchal culture.