Virus surge hits New England despite high vaccination rates

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  1. dagosa

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    Just the facts.
     
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    You can argue all you want for n95 masks but it’s no substitute for being vaccinated. No, “people” at Harvard don’t agree with you. No one at the cdc has said that special circumstances would not be better served by the n95 mask…NO one. They advocate them for some of these special situations. No study has been done comparing n95 masks with full vaccination. It seems silly that a doctor would advocate full compliance with n95 masking when we can not even get full compliance with vaccinations. The cdc recommends vaccinations AND masking with special consideration of n95 masking in special circumstances where….you just don’t know who the fk is unvaccinated. It’s never been different. Seriously, if the n95 is so easy to get, use and maintain , I bet you have a plethora to share with the rest of us.
     
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    That’s hilarious. Uninformed, but hilarious. We just got out of an admin with a totally anti science agenda. Are deniers Gargling any industrial cleaner lately ?
     
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    Why are you going to the strawman of vaccination? LOL

    Kind of blows your argument out of the water when a fellow traveler posts a link you “like” and it supports my argument that real experts disagree with the CDC.

    Yes, I can share sources of N95s. I have been for almost a year. But they are so easy to find anyone with internet service can get them quickly, easily, and cheaply. For less than people spend on coffee a day.

    Stop denying science my friend. It can kill you.
     
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    Boloney. Vaccinations are a strawman?
    The cdc and every medical research facility makes it clear, masking, social distancing n95 masking are not substitutes for vaccinations. Dah They all need to be used.

    Nope, there are no experts where the institution disagrees with the cdc. You know why ? Cause in science, if there is, they all become part of a consensus. You actually misquote the words of one doctor and call that an expert opinion ? Nope. Go to the Harvard web site and address your concerns, not one person from Harvard.
     
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    Obviously full of holes. There are no hospitals, businesses or medical facilities that mandate the use of the n95;mask except by their workers or in special circumstances. They are unified for general public use. Got a picture of any crowd. Let’s count the n95 masks if they are so easy to come by. You must be making a bundle they’re so easy to resell…sure.
     
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    The link clearly demonstrated the Biden administration is denying science. Trump doesn’t have a monopoly on science denial you know.

    It’s funny about the ingestion of disinfectant thing. Do you know who first brought up drinking bleach?

    Did you know American demographics who voted at a higher rate for Biden were already ingesting more disinfectant long before Trump made his infamous comments on disinfectant? The Biden voting demographics continued to ingest more disinfectant than other demographics throughout the pandemic. Why do you think they would do that?
     
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    Your links men nothing. Tell me an entire institution in medical research is contrary to the cdc. You don’t get it. You may never.
     
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    Vaccination is a strawman because vaccination does not affect the efficacy of any mask. LOL

    We are done until you can provide evidence in the form of a study or meta analysis of studies to support cloth mask usage over N95s. We KNOW you can’t.

    I did not misquoted anyone. LOL
     
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    Present a study….
     
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    Hilarious. Still trying to defend the idiot. Before he made his infamous comment, proper use for industrial cleaners was ligated by a company rep. It had nothing to do with internal use. Next, will you claim Biden did it ? Laughable.
     
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    I follow empirical evidence. The CDC does not. You do not. I will never understand why people choose to deny science but you do. I hope you don’t suffer negative health consequences as a result.
     
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    Ha ha
    Are you serious. The normal cloth masks are to help keep vaccinated people who may carry small samples of viral load from infecting other people. The reason cloth masks can be used by them is because THEY ARE VACCINATED. Good grief man.

    They’re may be a one in seven chance that a vaccinated person has asymptomatic infection. Masks are a cya in addition to vaccinations to help keep the spread down.

    unvaccinated people are walking cesspools if potential infections and transmissions.
     
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    I’m just pointing out Biden voters ingested far more disinfectant than non Biden voters. And started doing so before Trump ever talked about it.

    Did you know Biden was the first to talk about drinking bleach? LOL
     
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    No. Vaccinated shed similar amounts of virus. LOL. How can you not know this?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...s-infected-with-SARS-CoV-2-Delta-variant.aspx
    Even the science deniers at the CDC agree with me on this one!

    If you were correct, why wouldn’t better masks be recommended for the unvaccinated? You are more laughs than a barrel of monkeys.
     
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    Defend which idiot? Trump or Biden? Both are idiots.

    It is a fact Biden voters ingested disinfectant at higher rates than non Biden voters. Just a fact.
     
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    Ridiculous. You have no foundation for your remarks. Tucker has you believing what Johns Hopkins and the cdc does is non science because there is a democrat in office. Take an Tylenol. .
     
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    Kazenatsu continue to ignore that the high number of cases in New England are among UNVACCINATED people, and he continues to try to pass this as a vaccine failure. Amazing.
     
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    You don’t even read your own reference do you. The vast majority are from infected peoples who have higher viral loads from unvaccinated people. Obviously some vaccinated get infected…..the difference in those getting infected is dramatic. Bottom line is, masking is for people who are vaccinated. Unvaccinated are in a world of sht.
     
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    Trump supporters are delusional. Just like the Orange idiot.
     
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    You. You’re the denier.
     
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    I have presented numerous studies to support my position. You have provided…NONE. Please do so. Then we can continue. As of now you are a science denier.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Nope. My position is founded in all the peer reviewed data I’ve presented. You have presented…NONE. Just unsubstantiated opinions. We are done until you can back your opinions with evidence.
     
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    You’re peers are Tucker and Trumpers. They are losers.
     

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