Visualizing gun deaths – Comparing the U.S. to rest of the world

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  1. whatukno

    whatukno New Member

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/23/us/23beliefs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

    http://thehill.com/homenews/house/2...d-the-house-democrats-who-oppose-gay-marriage



    Life is suffering.


    People are institutionalized until they are deemed no longer a threat to themselves. Do people actually think before posting or are their fingers just hitting the keys? An attempt to commit suicide does actually get a person thrown in jail, (if they haven't already harmed themselves and have to be taken to the hospital for treatment. A hearing is scheduled with a judge, and a judge rules the person to remain in custody of the state until such time as they can be certain they won't try and kill themselves again.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Japan's suicide rate is higher than America's combined murder/suicide rate. When Australia greatly restricted guns, there was no significant change in suicide rates, but there was a change in method of suicide--guns were used less, yet the number of suicides were unchanged. Conservatives think for ourselves. That's why we have a much greater diversity of opinion among conservatives than there are among you group-think liberals.
     
  3. Johnny-C

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    I think I largely agree with you. Some who are about 'guns', don't think things over (beyond guns being THE solution to things that ail mankind); they are essentially certain that war solves problems better than most other things.
     
  4. whatukno

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    Oh but they help don't they? Makes it so much easier to see the life drain from your victims eyes as they lay dying at your feet.



    Wouldn't think a conservative would understand simple English.
     
  5. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    My guess is that I used the word banality before you were born. However, in that time I have learned the wisdom of using common words rather than grandiose ones. It's better communication.
     
  6. Brewskier

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    Who's that guy?

    So almost 95% of Democrats in the House agree on the issue of gay marriage. That's similar to how the most loyal liberal Democrat group in the country, blacks, vote 95% as a group. So much for individuality and the "herding cats, we think for ourselves" type narrative you are putting forth.

    What an insipid response, and it doesn't really answer my question.

    So much for the liberal idea of having a right to your own body. If I have the right to life, why am I denied the right to give up that life? Clearly you just want the Government to have more control. That seems to be your primary objective, and is typical of today's modern liberal.
     
  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Guns = War is your imposition of opinion over reality. Guns = guns. That's it.
     
  8. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Attempted suicide is not a crime in Florida. It does not result in jail time, but in hospital time. Please learn and research before spouting off nonsense. (Research "Baker act" in Florida, for relevant laws)

    http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/programs/samh/MentalHealth/laws/histba.pdf
     
  9. whatukno

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    And you can't change their minds. No mater what facts you present them with, no mater how many statistics, they ignore them all {Adviser Edit - Rule 9 bypassing the profanity filter}.

    You can't argue with someone who sees firearms as a replacement for their own inadequacies.

    Gun nuts aren't in it for the liberating freedom that a gun provides, it's a fetish. It really is, and you can't argue with a fetish, there's no point. All you can do is wait till they finish themselves off and go to sleep.
     
  10. perdidochas

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    Love the hyperbole. That said, I think they will count off on your FCAT writing test for using so much exaggeration....
     
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    LOL, nothing like projecting your own insecurities on others.
     
  12. Tahuyaman

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    Right, we might end up as a progressive third world nation like Scotland ..........
     
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    Yea, you still have to go in front of a judge, or a judge will issue an order ex parte if you aren't competent enough to stand in court.

    http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/programs/samh/MentalHealth/laws/bainvex.pdf

    - - - Updated - - -

    Hit too close to home didn't I?

    Sorry to out you.
     
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    A privledge granted and protected by who? How would you respond if he government oneday decided to take that privledge away and confiscate all firearms by force? Would you approve?

    Rights aren't granted by government.
     
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    Showing how you think about guns reflects nothing on anyone but you.
     
  16. perdidochas

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    But it isn't a crime and it doesn't result in jail time. Yes, it can result in involuntary observation/treatment in a hospital, but it is not a criminal offense. There is no crime committed. It's health related, not crime related.
     
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    It is over. The anti second amendment people have lost. That's the way it is and will always be.
     
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    You shoulda shot the sum(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). Cutting the muffler out of a van is akin to horse thievin' where I come from.
     
  19. whatukno

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    A well known liberal author, you wouldn't have read his work.


    Sorry, but I provided the information you requested. Your rejection of that assessment is not my concern but yours alone.



    It did, but again, your simplified rejection of it is not my concern.



    Want some cheese? I think a nice Munster will go with that whine of yours.
     
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    Oh, so you don't understand civil law? Is that what you are saying?
     
  21. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    One of the biggest nanny states around.....

    http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/04/07/scotland-the-most-nannying-of-europes-nanny-states/

     
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    Yeah, I'm half expecting a spate of rooftop snipings in the not far off future. Then we'll get the retaliation and have our own little Sarajevo. It'll be grand.
     
  23. perdidochas

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    I'm saying that attempted suicide is not a crime and nobody goes to jail for it. Attempted suicide is a mental health emergency. People go to the hospital for it. What's the matter, you don't understand modern medicine?
     
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    Nah. Most gun violence here is committed by gang bangers and police.
     
  25. Brewskier

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    Probably not. I try and avoid liberal hack authors.

    You attempted to support your claim that liberals are freethinkers and not in lock-step with each other by showing that only 5% of House Democrats disagree on a major issue. Thanks for inadvertently supporting my argument.

    Offering up a hackneyed 1 liner, like you did, doesn't really give you much ground to criticize something as simplified.

    Your dodge of my question with yet another hackneyed expression gives an indication of just how much you really offer the forum in the way of intelligent debate. It's how expressions like "Hope and Change" connected so well with people like you. Very "progressive".
     

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