Vladimir Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrence forces on high alert

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  1. Blinda Vaganto

    Blinda Vaganto Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When do you think it's going to happen? And what countries in your opinion Russia is going to attack?
     
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    I think our friend who is here to purvey delusions will be out of a job by Wednesday. Maybe a little later than that.
     
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    Do you even read the news? Say whatever you want about Putin but the threat is not empty.
     
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    By empty, I just mean that it's not going to materialize. Even if Putin gave the order, it would not happen. Putin may be out of his mind, but others around him are not.
     
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    I envy your optimism, but... I put myself in the shoes of the people surrounding him. Try to eliminate him and most likely die instantly or follow his orders and survive longer. It's a hard choice even for the average person. And people around him are not average. Damn... I wish I knew personally what to do...
     
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    They can refuse to follow orders without having to eliminate him.
     
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    Oh, man, I wish I knew how this stuff works and what the F is going on right now. And I'm also a little bit ashamed that I even worry about it when so many people die so bravely right now
     
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    Well, I'm sure it would mean resigning their positions in protest, etc., but what human being would obey an order from Putin to launch nukes?
     
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    I don't know. I don't anything...
     
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    Let's wait a couple of weeks. And then we'll see.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60541752
     
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    Do you know that thoughts are material? Perhaps your wish will come true soon. Russians, as Putin said, will go to heaven, but their enemies will simply burn.
     
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    1. There will be no self-destruction. Enemies of Russia will be destroyed. In the worst case scenario, as has been said repeatedly, the Russians will go to heaven, but their enemies will simply die.
    2. This is a lie. To begin with, you have a postulate from psychology - in any society (from savages to the most developed) there is a certain percentage of crazy people. Psychiatry rates them in this order
    a) 0.5% are those who need inpatient care and may be dangerous to others
    b) 3.5% are mentally ill people, but not dangerous to society.
    c) About 10% are highly suggestible people.
    Therefore, the appearance of several crazy people on the streets is a natural process.
    In your country, at one time such people were burned in the ovens of concentration camps.
    Now I will explain why your statements are lies.
    Unsanctioned rallies are prohibited in Russia. Just like in your country. This is due to the provision of the life of the population (rallies can block traffic, create problems for others ... etc. Therefore, coordination is needed)
    Those few crazy people who came out with posters against the war violated the laws of the country.
    They were repeatedly offered to disperse. And only after their refusal, some of the most active, those who insulted the police, the law, citizens passing by were detained. And after a fine FOR VIOLATION OF THE LAW (in the equivalent of up to $ 100), they were released.
    But I'm wondering, you want to say that in Germany it's different? In Germany, a medal is issued for breaking the law?
     
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    We'll see soon.
     
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    I am 100% sure that Russia will not attack first. But in case of aggression against it, the answer will be immediate.
    Do not believe the stories about "arressive Russia".
    Russia is not the aggressor. Russia never had colonies. Russians are very peaceful people, but due to the large accumulation of useful resources and territory, they are often the object of aggression and are forced to defend themselves.
    I will give you one example to think about.
    In the Western media and historical journals, Russian Tsar Ivan the Terrible is presented as a cruel ruler who killed for fun.
    This is a direct lie. Ivan the Terrible, of course, was not an angel, but everything is known in comparison. And then there is such an incident.
    According to the studies of historians from different countries, for all the manifestations of Ivan the Terrible (50 years), from 5 to 7 (according to various estimates) thousand people were killed.
    At the same time, in France, Charles the ninth killed more than 30 thousand people in just one night (St. Bartholomew's Night) and only in one city of Paris.
    Now compare. But the Western media declare Ivan the Terrible a tyrant.
    And so in everything. Anti-Russian propaganda is unchanged.
     
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    If we have our expatriate Russians declare part of Australia is now part of Russia and openly invite
    Russian 'volunteers', complete with airline shooting Buks, to come support them - I for one will happily
    fire the first shot.
     
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    Suicide is a sin. Keep this in mind before you fire.
    By the way, when Britain took over Australia, they were very worried about the opinion of the natives?
     
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    Yes ... they get NOW modern weapons from the West ... but this is AFTER the criminal Russian attack! A very important difference to your claim and propaganda lie before!
     
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    A statement from someone who denies Stalin's crimes...be it Stalin's crimes in Ukraine where he deliberately starved millions to death, or be it the Polish officers shot by the NKVD, which of course is not true. because those were the Nazis, not the NKVD!
    So much for that...
     
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    I understand your requirement to post propaganda but when you post pure nonsense that everybody can see is nonsense, your propaganda is not effective. You should be able to do better.
     
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    I suppose the Ukrainians, and their loyal Russian citizens, could do with Russians what the Russians did in ww2 in
    Lenningrad and Stalingrad - not open field fighting where Nazis were proficient, not even street to street or even
    house to house fighting, but room to room.

    ps Britain DID take on board what indigenous people thought. And yes, some settlers WERE hung. Britain back
    then was already shutting down the Arab, African and Americas slave trades, and was moving towards a true
    expression of the Englightenment.

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    O ... When did the British make Australia a colony again? Over 200 years ago and the first Australians were convicts.
    So ... since you obviously want to make a comparison to Ukraine with the term natives ... Russia is now sending its mass murderers, cannibals, Mafiosies, etc. from Black Dolphin prisons and other prisons in Russian uniforms to Ukraine and as potential future Settlers after the natives have been subjugated and at best exterminated?
     
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    For example, the United States began to arm Ukraine a very long time ago. 2019 for example. https://www.defenseone.com/technolo...other-250m-weapons-gear-and-other-aid/166088/
    Military deliveries to Ukraine have been going on since 1992. Military instructors are also sent there.
    But if you keep burying your head in the sand, that's up to you.
     
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    Military aid to Ukraine in recent years has not been weapons. The supply of weaponry to Ukraine is fairly recent. Obviously it will increase dramatically now that the war has begun.
     
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    Do you, as a historian, enjoy looking funny? You are a historian. Gotta love proof. Show evidence of the crimes of the NKVD. Not references to someone's opinion or fantasy novels, but real evidence.
    By the way, you, as a historian, should be familiar with such a concept as "Source Studies". That is, you must understand that not all historical documents should be considered true. (Simply because then, as now, there was a lot of enmity and fakes in relation to the opposite side).
    Therefore, as a historian, can you show what documents?
    P/S:
    In the Russian segment of the Internet there is a site "Istmat" (historical materials). They spread declassified documents from the archives.
    As a historian, this might be of interest to you. Perhaps you can even write a scientific dissertation.
    See here https://istmat.org/
    The site is in Russian, but you can always use a translator
     
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