Vote: is prostitution acceptable or unacceptable?

I would imagine more carnage results from it being a black market industry.

I can't say I was born among the poorest of the poor or among the rich. I'm going by observations from the top of the lower class -- or the "working class" as they say.

 

I think men can need a woman's company as much as sex. It calms the beast. They truly temper and complete us. I know most men would shy from such dialogue, but it must be said. I'm sure America is a dream for those guys who are a "catch" in a woman's eye. But the great majority don't fit that bill. And when one of those guys thinks he has finally found one, it is an emotional impact to which women, who can get men as easily as a new soda from the fridge, just don't feel. I know this goes against what every book, movie and TV show says, but I think men are more emotional than women. Especially in the realm of love. Of course, I'm speaking from the perspective of "good guys". To plan a society around the perspective of ********s is a fool's errand.

 

Well, I'm not here to toot my own horn, but I'm pretty sure I'm a good guy myself. Maybe I'm a catch, maybe I'm not, but what I've found is that things like emotions are completely dependent on the individual. I'd say men and women are about equal on the emotional side of things, but they differ in which emotions they fixate on.

Men tend to be more aggressive and angry, whereas women tend to be more jealous and depressive.

How well we attract women as individuals is highly dependent on the company you keep, the women you seek, and the way you live.

Having realistic expectations also helps.

I guess we're veering off topic here, but how this relates to prostitution is that freedom of choice should prevail. If a man decides to become emotionally attracted to a prostitute, however, that's on him when the shi# hits the fan.

I know some guys make that mistake, but that's just stupidity in action.

 

Regulated prostitution is legal in certain parts of the US.

Street prostitution shouldn't be allowed, it attracts criminal elements - it should be regulated to establishments.

 

Exactly. But when you just have sluts it's tough to blame him. I'm sure you know plenty of guys who have fallen for sluts who had no clue what they were getting into. They don't wear shirts to tell you on 1st sight. Put those women in brothels where they belong.

 

My first gf was slutty, but I didn't make that mistake with any later ones.

 

Every girl/woman I've been with turned out to be a cheater. Some higher standards than others. Or maybe some just caught sooner as I learned the signs. Maybe it is just an Idaho/hill billy thing. I've got a new one now. Hoping it works out. But have learned not to get invested in them emotionally to a certain extent. I've tried giving up, but a life of celibacy is just too hard and fruitless.

 

If a man acts like a man, he doesn't have to worry about being cheated on. Most men who get cheated on acted wussy so her interest waned.

 

Riiiiggghhhhtttt. I've known men who could fight 6 dudes at once in tears because he walked into his wife sucking another man's **** on the living room sofa. Don't kid yourself. I think the problem of cheaters stems more from the individual not having any clue as to what they want and the inability to be content.

 

Just being strong physically doesn't make someone a man - however in the same light - I don't have too much sympathy for men who don't put effort into their relationship, but whine about "women being sluts" when they get cheated on - obviously cheating is wrong - the person (man or woman) should be up-front and tell the other that they're ending the relationship - but the man has to be partly to blame if the woman loses interest in him - it's almost like they think they're entitled to a woman even if they aren't willing to act the part of a strong lover. Women aren't a possession, they're a pursuit.

 

That is a good argument for a man whining about always being left. Cheating should never be blamed on the person being cheated on. That is a defect of the character of the cheater. Nothing more. Nearly all the women who have ever cheated on me still wanted to be with me after I found out. By all means, apply that to your formula.

 

Did they want you because they knew you'd take them back?

Cheating is a defect of character in itself - but often the lack of interest that led to the cheating can be traced back to the man. The idea that a woman is going to stay interested in a man just because "she's his girlfriend/spouse", almost like it's a business contract is pretty much bogus - there has to be passion in a relationship for it to have any meaning, and the man's responsible for keeping the passion alive - otherwise it's a relationship in name only.

 

I think it was more of "you don't lose your wife..you lose your turn", as to how hillbillies operate. I think most are so use to being able to walk all over men, that even when they have a good one they can step out for a good time and I would be happy to have them back. Unfortunately for them I have more self respect and grew up in SoCal not Idaho for my youth, so I know they aren't normal. But they do exist. And in droves.

 

If they wanted you back, then they probably valued you more for what you'd provide them - so you were more like a source of provision for them than a true passion - that's what I'm talking about. You can't have real love or passion in a relationship if the attraction is based on convenience or material possessions - attraction is based on how you make a woman feel about herself, not whether you provide her a home/take care of her kids/don't beat her up, etc. Without any passion, the relationship is more like a business partnership than a Romance - no matter how "nice a guy" you are.

 

I have been working poor my whole life. Romance and good sex is all I can provide. Try again.

 

So what did those other guys have that you didn't?

 

Men tend to view having sex with more women as "a notch on their belt" so that's one motivator for why they cheat - even when they have very attractive wives/girlfriends.

But women don't have this view with men (ex. that sex with as many men as possible is an accomplishment ) - if anything it's perceived as negative on them. So there's usually some other motivation for why they treat - I'm just curious as to what you think it was - because women don't "cheat just to cheat" the way that guys do - they usually feel like there's something they're getting out of the new guy that they aren't getting out of the guy that they're with.

 

They were just fun too. There is no longer any social repercussions for women as to being sluts. Why have 1 guy when you can have 50? Is truly the only rule at play. That is what you must realize. Right now there are literally 100s of thousands of women with alpha males who make 6 figures a year, masturbating in front of social cams to strangers around the world. Love is a nonexistent word at this point. And it truly sucks for someone who continues to seek it at such a shabby time in human history. I'm not saying guys are any better. I'm saying women are just as foul. The entire planet is Sodom and Gomorrah.

 

What social repercussions? Public stonings?

And I don't agree with that - because social reprecussions or not, women being promiscuous is still considered a negative. If a guy has sex with lots of women, he's a "playa" - if a woman has sex with lots of men, she's a "slut". So usually women have some other motive in cheating than "just wanting sex with more guys" - because it is not perceived as an accomplishment with women like it is with men.

How many hours a week do those 6 figure men work? Maybe she feels like they barely spend any time together. If you can find the source of the problem other than just "she shouldn't have cheated" then you can fix the problem.

 

You're an older woman, huh? Have a conversation with your daughters at some point, not in regards to their own chastity, but in regards to how they perceive men. You will have an eye opener as to who is the "playas". Providing honest dialogue is present.

 

I'm a man. My avatar is Pat Benatar because I love her music.

 

Umm...was not expecting that from your responses. I guess neither of us are clairvoyant. Are you straight?

 

...yes, I'm straight, and conservative.

Just because I think that men have to do their part in keeping women's passion alive rather than just except a woman to always be interested in them doesn't make me gay.

 

I realize. Wasn't trying to offend. Just know women aren't angels. Men can love their wife and mistress too. Women are now on par with that reality. If you want to keep one from straying, you better be perfect. And I mean in every way. And even then, she could still slip.

 

Whats the difference between paying your wife or girlfriend's bills and putting clothing on her back and food in her belly and having sex as opposed to just throwing down some green and getting some some sex and not having to stay with her?

The absolute truth is, there is no difference. Prostitution is just what men do to get laid in the short term. Marriage and dating is what men do to get laid in the long term. They both end up costing the man money...

Here is my take. Criminalizing prostitution has forced it to the black market, where violence and coercion are used to compete. Bring prostitution out of the black market and you remove most of the violence associated with it. Women would not need pimps to protect them. Street gangs and Biker gangs and other organized crime rackets wouldn't hold the monopoly on it. I imagine women would carry STD papers with them to show their customers and would pay in to the income taxes and such that they don't pay.

You might not like prostitution, but it's not going anywhere regardless of the law. It's time to realize that laws do not change society for the good under any circumstances when it comes to personal behavior.