War pigs....

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  1. Starcastle

    Starcastle Well-Known Member

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    https://medium.com/@JonathanCohn/ir...who-didnt-and-where-are-they-now-595d1654bf9e

    I consider myself a moderate pragmatic libertarian. Probably in reality just a pro business moderate but on the issue of war and conflict I'm to the left of most liberals. If there are any such people left in America.

    I did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016 I voted for Gary Johnson. I usually vote libertarian as a protest anyway. The one thing I was concerned about with Trump was temperament and attitude. I was really bothered when he said one way he would deal with ISIS was to bomb the Iraqi oil fields so ISIS could not get revenue from them. WTF? I imagined $5 a gallon gas. Well that did not happen.

    In fact Trump was perhaps the most effective modern president in using our military to accomplish objectives(ISIS, Soleimani,Baghdadi) while at the same time promoting peace. Three historic Arab-Israeli peace deals and a European peace deal. All the while keeping us out of a major conflict with Iran which could have easily happened.

    Trump deserves a Nobel peace prize!

    Now let's get to Biden. Biden has never met a war he did not like. Like so many elite democrats in the US senate Biden supported that idiot war in Iraq. Biden has supported every military action possible. What about Biden's temperament? Well he was ready to fight a retired farmer who dared to ask about Hunter and Burisma. Called him fat and challenged him to a push up contest.
    Biden has also said he wants to fist fight Trump. Oh yeah he's senile!

    Most of all Biden is just a swamp creature who always believes in the power of big government and will never be shy to use it. Biden is a war pig!

    Now democrat apologists will take issue with this and that is fine. I'm not just attacking Biden. The republican party is full of war pigs. The same types of people that supported the Iraq war have not really changed that much and had Trump decided to send 100,000 troops into Iran his supporters would have been behind him with flags waving. The war pigs in Washington are many and deep. With Biden in the white house it seems inevitable war is coming.
     
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    Terrorists don’t deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
     
  3. Gatewood

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    War of some nature is nearly inevitable with the Dem Party taking control of the presidency and predestined IF they also assume a bare margin control of the Senate while also (barely) being in control of the House. But I posit that Biden is unimportant. Due to his ever increasing mental problems he is nothing more than a figurehead. The real power behind the throne is Kamala Harris -- his designated replacement -- and since she is all over the place ideologically -- being a flip-flopper supreme -- absolutely nobody can predict in advance what her foreign policy will consist of during however many years remains of Biden's first term after the DNC tells her to take over.

    As for the globalist minded members of the Grand Ol' Party, yes, you are absolutely correct about them. Fortunes can be made during war time . . . especially if you know in advance that war is going to happen. Most GOPers in politics worship Mamon. It's just that simple.

    That said . . . I don't actually expect war in 2021 as the leftist loyal mainstream Medi will probably spend all of next year heavily propagandizing the Biden-Harris administration as the end all and be all of both competence and peaceful intent. It's probably 2022 that is going to contain the Dem Party inspired mongering NEED for yet another war.
     
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    Agree. So why did Obama win then? Obama killed far more innocent civilians.

    You can't do better than that? Any of our pets could do better than that.
     
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    Kamala has no power. Being VP gives her no power unless the president gives her something to do. Biden is not giving his power away after coveting it for his entire life. Jill Biden would more likely be the acting president.
     
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    Obama didn’t deserve to win the Nobel prize either.

    You got numbers on drone deaths under Obama and Trump?
    Everything I’ve found states the program escalated under Trump. He also reduced transparency and oversight over the program.

    I can’t do better than what? Sorry, your point is unclear.
     
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    I don't think we'll see a replay of Woodrow Wilson and Edith, 2 years max and 'ol Joes history, then the emptiest of empty suits takes office. Think any previous Presidents were merely puppets of their party's power brokers, stay tuned for the inevitable Harris ascent to the Oval Office.
     
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    Harris was obviously hand picked by the DNC well in advance to eventually become Joe Biden's replacement in their blatantly rigged primaries system and no doubt she will be treated like the real president behind the scenes from day one as experts groom her to take over when the DNC finally gives her the word. That's not altogether a bad thing. Yes the election was stolen and not even Dem Party voters wanted Kamala for their president . . . but at least she DOES have a functioning brain . . . even though NOBODY really knows what she really believes in as a politician.
     
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    Nobody wants her. Nobody voted for her. After the VP debate they hid her away just like senile Joe.

    It's common sense. Who is Joe's most trusted advisor? His wife. He doesn't even like Kamala.
     
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    Warren was the VP choice and then George Floyd happened and they had to look for more pigmentation. She was one of the few potential candidates who met the minimal qualifications(Senator or governor, vagina, pigmentation). It was between Kamala and Duckworth.
     
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    Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize because

    1) He wasn't George W. Bush.
    2) He is black.
     
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    That's it.
     
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    This is the episode but the clip is not available. I could not find it anyway. Hannity's monologue about Trump pulling out of the Iran deal.



    What is significant about this to me is that the clip I'm talking about was a democrat coming on and arguing with Hannity that pulling out was not a good move. Hannity in that argument goes full fledged Iraq war retard. He uses the same exact logic used for war in Iraq. Iran can get a nuke we better do something now!

    He gets a little emotional in an argument and it all comes spilling out. Remember the argument for war with Iraq. WMD! Saddam is getting these horrible weapons and we need to stop him!

    Overstate the threat massively and then over react to that threat. Had Trump sent troops in mass to Iran or any other place we all know his supporters would have been behind him along with core conservatives like Hannity and Limbaugh.
     
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    This is the person in charge of the nuclear codes beginning 1/20. Good luck to America. This is a man who cannot deal with fellow democrats disagreeing with him.



    Notice how Biden lets his own insecurities come out when they were not even mentioned. Way back in 86 he brings up IQ when asked about his law school education. He brought up IQ not the questioner! Here he brings up "shape" when the question about his age or physical condition is never brought up.

    Just the temperament of a war pig.
     
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    The Nobel committee all but admitted that. Just as one of them openly said that Jimmy Carter being awarded the Peace Prize was intended as a rebuke to President Bush.
     
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    Hard to find a more Peaceful President than Carter since leaving office. Much better than Rotten Ronnie.
     
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    So they basically admitted their award is garbage then.
     
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    Speaking of politically motivated peace prizes.

    In 1985 the award was given to a group called "International Physicians for the prevention of nuclear war."

    The group was small, had accomplished nothing. Nobody had heard of them. Founded just 5 years previous they had hardly been doing good work for decades. It was just some cheap rebuke of Reagan.

    The United nations has won numerous peace prizes. Just won. 2020-2007-2005-1988-1981-1969-1965-1954. Why not just give it to them every year since they are supposed to be working for peace that is their reason to exist.
     
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    What did Ronald Reagan do after leaving office that was bad?
     
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    It was what he did during office that was bad.
     
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    I was a big supporter of Ronald Reagan. He made some mistakes like the immigration partial amnesty and the budget deficits, but overall he did a great job as president.

    IIRC you're one of those who whines about something in Central America right?

    But you're not one of those fools who blames Reagan for the spread of AIDS IIRC.
     
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    Spread of Aids ? - You are rambling in gibberish - desperate for some kind of Ad Hom attack.

    The question is one of war/peace - in comparison of Carter/Reagan - What does Aids have to do with anything ?

    So what is your argument here - that Reagan's support for rebels in Central America Should not Count ?
     
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    I was all for supporting the Contras. Anything to oppose a communist government is allowable in my opinion.

    I mentioned AIDS because Reagan haters not infrequently claim that Reagan helped cause the spread of AIDS because he didn't address the issue earlier. Ignoring the fact that the disease didn't even have a name until halfway through the Reagan Admin.
     
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    Not sure what any of this has to do with Carter - but - do feel free to continue having the conversation you are having with yourself... perhaps by accident you might wander into the topic under discussion.
     
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    Biden doing the right thing by pulling out of Afghanistan. Trump tried and might have done the same thing.

    Quite an interesting thing going on at Foxnews. Some bashing Biden for it and some agreeing with it.
     

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